Odin/Thor vs Galactus

Started by psycho gundam7 pages

wrong scan from before. i meant this one

Originally posted by Damborgson
You can't, considering one was called energy and the other was shown as lightning. It's true, those didn't look like standard blasts from Galactus, he doesn't go all Sith Lord from what I remember, but it's not really comparable to Thor using lightning. Thor is the lightning. It's his go to power. And Galactus demonstrating some added versatility to his power, is still not comparable to Thor straight up changing the basic nature of godblast to lightning instead of energy. They're completely different attacks. The closest you have to the pseudo godblast before, is the original godblast which came out as more of a wave than a direct beam like it typically is. But it was still raw energy, not lightning. Which is the killer for the godblast theory imo.

They were giving their power to channel through Mjolnir. It's a little ambiguous, but what else would come out of Mjolnir if Thor was planning on using some super lightning? Lightning of course. And it did.

I'm fairly certain it's not. Just to many if's and's or but's to make it a dead certain godblast.

imo it was likely an amped gb. but we've seen the gb be....less than spectacular so even amped, it really isn't surprising these guys took it. my point is that a focused blast would have been more effective is all.

Originally posted by leonidas
honestly, we just....really don't see things the same i guess. to me, it looks like g is engaging the other, and the heralds are about even with the other or maybe behind him. either way, the other appears to tank at least as much to me. i'm also not really convinced the lightning did anything in particular. the explosion after seems to be the thing, but again, that energy was absorbed by all 3. and its not like these were insignificant beings.....to me it's pretty simple--were all the energy directed at a single entity, it would have been more effective. HOW effective? i don't know. enough to drop one of them? certainly not, as that g was clearly pretty strong and he would tank even that blast. but how it can be argued that the blast would have been more effective i simply don't understand....

I am not going to waste my time addressing this pointless speculation of yours only to get a lame rebuke later on that it's just my opinion or some such sh1t like that.

Suffice to say that this however:

shows us the angle at which the heralds are positioned with respect to the Abstracts, and Galactus is directly in its line of fire. Make of that what you will, but its pretty clear to me based on the on-panel illustrative that Galactus took the brunt of that attack.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, that obviously makes sense to me, but the other interview sounds like it's saying something different. wish i could read it to see what was actually said.

Yeah, sorry I don't have the exact quote but I am confident what I wrote was close enough. I didn't exaggerate, promise.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, if there weren't 3 of them, the attack would have been directed at....just one? 😕 and do you think if it were focused (and i've really never seen a gb WRAP around anyone before) it would be more damaging? ie--all that lightning and power were aimed at JUST one of them it would have been more damaging? if not, then....shrug
why would it?
It wasn't a single beam, it was a big ass all encompassing blast.

The GB wrapped around Galactus in its first appearance

If it were aimed at just one in the same manner, why are we led to believe it would hit more than it did? Which according to the art was everything in its path.

The lightning would have left even more untouched and would have lasted longer or something?

And then would have exploded 3 times as hard?

Galactus should have stated that he's thankful Scrier and Other were there so he didn't get destroyed by it as opposed to get tickled by it

Originally posted by Damborgson
You can't, considering one was called energy and the other was shown as lightning. It's true, those didn't look like standard blasts from Galactus, he doesn't go all Sith Lord from what I remember, but it's not really comparable to Thor using lightning. Thor is the lightning. It's his go to power. And Galactus demonstrating some added versatility to his power, is still not comparable to Thor straight up changing the basic nature of godblast to lightning instead of energy. They're completely different attacks. The closest you have to the pseudo godblast before, is the original godblast which came out as more of a wave than a direct beam like it typically is. But it was still raw energy, not lightning. Which is the killer for the godblast theory imo.

They were giving their power to channel through Mjolnir. It's a little ambiguous, but what else would come out of Mjolnir if Thor was planning on using some super lightning? Lightning of course. And it did.

I'm fairly certain it's not. Just to many if's and's or but's to make it a dead certain godblast.


But I can, when one considers that it was not mentioned to be his lightning, that 2 other heralds were assisting him as well in firing that blast, and that the "lightning" barrage can simply be seen as more defined energy shockwaves due to the quality of the art used here. I doubt how it can be a killer, since Oblivion's narrative, despite the slight differences in wording clearly made it sound like a Godblast.

That would presuppose that Thor literally screamed out that he was going to use lightning, which I am sure is not the case here. As it so happens, they were feeling the fabric of creation getting torn asunder by the Abstracts' battle, so I am not sure they wouldn't try to end the madness using the ultimate attack.

K then. I already told you to each his own.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, that obviously makes sense to me, but the other interview sounds like it's saying something different. wish i could read it to see what was actually said.

Are you talking about the 4 planet food fest thingy? If you are, here's the link:

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/297567371181172273

leo's point is none of them took all of the energy unleashed, only whatever portion hit them directly. makes sense. doesnt change a thing here.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i don't see any wasted energy at all. galactus is totally enveloped by the totality of the output.

another:

funny thing is you just showed two scans where Juggernaut and a Thanos clone completely tanked it
Game changer in this thread

But anyway, there's lightning shooting off in two very far off ways, but disregarding that, I'm saying the G-blast that hit The trio was focused on the trio. If it was the same type, it would have been wasted (although again, it blew up). If it only hit Galactus like it engulfed the trio, then it would have been the exact same thing. It's not an aoe from a game

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Are you talking about the 4 planet food fest thingy? If you are, here's the link:

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/297567371181172273

A couple of follow up posts after that is where Brevoort addressed the stuff with the Galactus vis as vis Celestials in Thor 300.

I have read those "couple of" follow up posts, and I didn't notice any such question answered by him.

Post the link, or at least try to paraphrase it if you're sure of it.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Are you talking about the 4 planet food fest thingy? If you are, here's the link:

http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/297567371181172273

So Odin can draw nearly even with Galactus, but Odin-Destroyer can't handle a single Celestial. Meanwhile Galactus can handle several Celestials simultaneously (unless they merge). So... uh... what? Do you guys even care anymore? I miss Gruenwald.

👆

The problem is Odin dont was close to Galactus in that battle...

did odin draw nearly even with galactus to begin with? IMO he wasnt protrayed as being close to G at all.

Originally posted by 753
did odin draw nearly even with galactus to begin with? IMO he wasnt protrayed as being close to G at all.
he just launched himself at Galactus and Galactus is like "duh I'll just stand here and not protect myself at all" and took himself completely out of the battle physically

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I have read those "couple of" follow up posts, and I didn't notice any such question answered by him.

Post the link, or at least try to paraphrase it if you're sure of it.

Will look for it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
he just launched himself at Galactus and Galactus is like "duh I'll just stand here and not protect myself at all" and took himself completely out of the battle physically
👆 G won by tanking an attack that crippled odin. I see nothing wrong with G being superior to celestials when well fed.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
he just launched himself at Galactus and Galactus is like "duh I'll just stand here and not protect myself at all" and took himself completely out of the battle physically
Re: Galactus just standing there, seems less like PIS and more like CIS. I think it's reasonable to believe that Galactus underestimated the Asgardians.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Formspring.

Edit: Just for context and I am paraphrasing as Formspring doesn't have an archive feature as such. A poster (presumably an Odin fan) was incredulous about the results of the Galactus vs Odin and Celesitials fights and asked how Galactus would do in place of the Celestials in Thor #300. He said reasonably fed, same result. Reasonably fed is up for discussion but I don't think that's the same as extremely fed. Just imo.

👆 I can dig it.
One good planet should equate to reasonably fed.

Originally posted by ODG
Re: Galactus just standing there, seems less like PIS and more like CIS. I think it's reasonable to believe that Galactus underestimated the Asgardians.
I'm just saying it was retarded