Odin/Thor vs Galactus

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am not going to waste my time addressing this pointless speculation of yours only to get a lame rebuke later on that it's just my opinion or some such sh1t like that.

Suffice to say that this however:

shows us the angle at which the heralds are positioned with respect to the Abstracts, and Galactus is directly in its line of fire. Make of that what you will, but its pretty clear to me based on the on-panel illustrative that Galactus took the brunt of that attack.

lol

lame rebuke? how you can actually look at that and say that a part of the other is NOT between g and the heralds i have utterly no idea. the other's tentacle is stretching into the foreground. and how the hell you can POSSIBLY suggest g took the "brunt" of it, i have no clue, as there is apparently NO affect on ANY of them by the lightning. but sure, no rebuke. your facts are clearly in order. 👆

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
why would it?
It wasn't a single beam, it was a big ass all encompassing blast.

The GB wrapped around Galactus in its first appearance

If it were aimed at just one in the same manner, why are we led to believe it would hit more than it did? Which according to the art was everything in its path.

The lightning would have left even more untouched and would have lasted longer or something?

And then would have exploded 3 times as hard?

Galactus should have stated that he's thankful Scrier and Other were there so he didn't get destroyed by it as opposed to get tickled by it

why would it? because it is a set amount of energy now being dispersed over a wider area among more beings--uber high level beings.....

it did wrap g, but all the energy was AT him. i'm...honestly not sure what's not to get. but yeah, your last point is clearly what i've been saying. 😐

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
funny thing is you just showed two scans where Juggernaut and a Thanos clone completely tanked it
Game changer in this thread

But anyway, there's lightning shooting off in two very far off ways, but disregarding that, I'm saying the G-blast that hit The trio was focused on the trio. If it was the same type, it would have been wasted (although again, it blew up). If it only hit Galactus like it engulfed the trio, then it would have been the exact same thing. It's not an aoe from a game

against Thanos it was not a Godblast.

Against Juggernaut, Thor was weakened.

Originally posted by leonidas
why would it? because it is a set amount of energy now being dispersed over a wider area among more beings--uber high level beings.....

it did wrap g, but all the energy was AT him. i'm...honestly not sure what's not to get. but yeah, your last point is clearly what i've been saying. 😐

It's speculation based on art with virtually no support from any where else. I could see if this was DC Universe and you were an electric DPS, but even then the damage doesn't split at 3. I think it's 5 when it starts splitting...

Hell, might as well start speculating that the only energy that hit the others were because it bounced off Galactus

There's also the fact that the 3 expended so much power into the GB that they KOed themselves too... But yeah

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
against Thanos it was not a Godblast.

Against Juggernaut, Thor was weakened.

And against Galactus he was using two other life forces.

Bad examples

I agree with you in the Galactus thing.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
But I can, when one considers that it was not mentioned to be his lightning, that 2 other heralds were assisting him as well in firing that blast, and that the "lightning" barrage can simply be seen as more defined energy shockwaves due to the quality of the art used here. I doubt how it can be a killer, since Oblivion's narrative, despite the slight differences in wording clearly made it sound like a Godblast.

That would presuppose that Thor literally screamed out that he was going to use lightning, which I am sure is not the case here. As it so happens, they were feeling the fabric of creation getting torn asunder by the Abstracts' battle, so I am not sure they wouldn't try to end the madness using the ultimate attack.

K then. I already told you to each his own.

Well sure you can, but it's...not necessarily smart. That is some heavy reaching dude. Mjolnir, wielded by the god of thunder, and it's improbable to you that it's his lightning? That doesn't sound probable at all.

The artwork is clear enough even in the old comic, as well as bringing a description of the energy, and the art in the annual most certainly didn't leave it ambiguous that it was lightning and nothing else. It made it sound like they were going all out, putting everything they had into the blast. Not necessarily the godblast imo.

That's not really how it tends to work in Thor's case though. He's used the godblast on much much more minor threats (juggernaut), and not used it on greater threats (Demigorge, PF, Serpent, Mephisto, Surtur, etc) so while it'd make sense for him to use it, he wouldn't necessarily do it, and it's pretty clear he didn't.

Ok, if we're not going to convince the other it's probably for the best. Later.

Judging from the art and dialogue, I'm inclined to think it wasn't a godblast. Definitely doesn't appear to be so when you compare it to all the previous godblasts which have happened.

However, I do think it was much more than mere lightning. Seemed to be a Hail Mary sort of "Soul Lightning" gimmick attack.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Judging from the art and dialogue, I'm inclined to think it wasn't a godblast. Definitely doesn't appear to be so when you compare it to all the previous godblasts which have happened.

However, I do think it was much more than mere lightning. Seemed to be a Hail Mary sort of "Soul Lightning" gimmick attack.

Originally posted by vince_slice
What part of the dialogue makes you think it wasn't the GB?

Well, nothing about the Godblast has ever shown that it was possible to absorb the energy of others to cojoin with the Thor to "amp" the Godblast. Mjolnir's absorbed energy before and has even used a "Spirit Bomb" of sorts when it collected the energy of Asgardians to fuel an attack, but a Godblast?

It points to it being a powerful attack that transcends the elemental and physical, I'll give you that, but I don't think it was a Godblast.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, nothing about the Godblast has ever shown that it was possible to absorb the energy of others to cojoin with the Thor to "amp" the Godblast. Mjolnir's absorbed energy before and has even used a "Spirit Bomb" of sorts when it collected the energy of Asgardians to fuel an attack, but a Godblast?

It points to it being a powerful attack that transcends the elemental and physical, I'll give you that, but I don't think it was a Godblast.

It might not have been shown in the past because Thor rarely uses the GB, let a lone with other heralds. But, just because he hasn't doesn't mean its impossible.

Let's compare quotes from his previous god blasts with his most current one:

"all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit--entwine, fuse, erupt--channelled through the asgardian metal of the thunder god's hammer."

"Thor begins the agonzing process of uniting his lifeforce--his very essence--with the irresitible power of his uru mallet."

"One that might be focused through me--my body becoming as one with the power of the hammer supreme"

"I must call forth the god-force which flows with my veins--and unite it with the irresistible power of mine enchanted uru mallet! And the god of thunder shall beome one with the hammer supreme!"

I thought the dialogue describe the blast was the strongest evidence for it being a GB based on how it matches previous descriptions.

Yeah that description of it is as spot on as you can be while choosing different words

One time the blast comes out of his body, one time it's lightning and force waves, the others it's a small blast, and this one was lightning in a comic where everyone shot lightning.

Don't see the big deal.

Originally posted by vince_slice
It might not have been shown in the past because Thor rarely uses the GB, let a lone with other heralds. But, just because he hasn't doesn't mean its impossible.

Let's compare quotes from his previous god blasts with his most current one:

[b]"all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit--entwine, fuse, erupt--channelled through the asgardian metal of the thunder god's hammer."

"Thor begins the agonzing process of uniting his lifeforce--his very essence--with the irresitible power of his uru mallet."

"One that might be focused through me--my body becoming as one with the power of the hammer supreme"

"I must call forth the god-force which flows with my veins--and unite it with the irresistible power of mine enchanted uru mallet! And the god of thunder shall beome one with the hammer supreme!"

I thought the dialogue describe the blast was the strongest evidence for it being a GB based on how it matches previous descriptions. [/B]

I'm not disputing it was a powerful attack. It obviously was intended to be just that. And it could certainly be intended to be even more powerful than any given Godblast. It just doesn't resemble a Godblast based on prior history.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm not disputing it was a powerful attack. It obviously was intended to be just that. And it could certainly be intended to be even more powerful than any given Godblast. It just doesn't resemble a Godblast based on prior history.

Well you mentioned that the dialogue made you think it wasn't a GB, so lets forget about its power for now, and focus on the dialogue:

"all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit--entwinw, fuse, erupt--channelled through the asgardian metal of the thunder god's hammer."

That doesn't sound like a GB to you? The common theme with the GB is Thor channelling his life-force through the hammer.

Thor, Surfer, and Rachel chanelling "all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit" through the hammer sounds like they're channelling their life-force to me, hence why it resembles a GB to me.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Well you mentioned that the dialogue made you think it wasn't a GB, so lets forget about its power for now, and focus on the dialogue:

"[b]all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit--entwinw, fuse, erupt--channelled through the asgardian metal of the thunder god's hammer."

That doesn't sound like a GB to you? The common theme with the GB is Thor channelling his life-force through the hammer.

Thor, Surfer, and Rachel chanelling "all that they are--body and mind, emotion and spirit" through the hammer sounds like they're channelling their life-force to me, hence why it resembles a GB to me. [/B]

If you used solely the dialogue and nothing else, it would sound like a Godblast barring the involvement of other beings contributing to it, I suppose. The dialogue combined with the art and all previous knowledge of the Godblast suggests that it's not, though.

Thor, the Surfer and the other herald put all that they had into a blast focused through Mjolnir. So much so it rendered all of them drained and unconscious. Sounds like a godblast to me.

It's a good thing the godblast doesn't drain Thor when he uses it then 👆 Never has.

True enough.

As I said, whatever it was, it was intended to be incredibly powerful, and perhaps in that instance, definitely above the Godblast in terms of power.

But it didn't appear to be the Godblast at all.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It's a good thing the godblast doesn't drain Thor when he uses it then 👆 Never has.

Maybe it's something more powerful than a godblast then.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Maybe it's something more powerful than a godblast then.