DOS Doomsday Repeat

Instead of Doomsday being in DC, he is now in Marvel. Let's fast forward this to the end, where the ending battle take place between the hero and the villain. Who from Marvel would be your Superman? Who would you use from Marvel EARTH to be the last standing person to face Doomsday.? No trans tiers or higher allowed. Remember, the person you choose would have to either die along with Doomsday or win the battle.

Would this be around the same time that DoS was published (ie the 90s) or would this be in current Marvel?

Current Marvel.

Thor or Hulk. Neither of them would die, probably, assuming Doomsday is at DoS levels.

^not sure about that. imo, hulk would die. thor is different. he could simply use bfr. if he tried going h2h ala superman, then yeah, i'd say he'd die too.

Well, considering the stuff both survived, I don't think either of them would die. Hulk especially has had his healing factor displayed more prominently over the past few years, too.

Maybe back in the 90s, I could agree, but both have gotten pretty significant feats since then. They'll feel it, either way, though.

Thor.

^^imo, i think dd could have continued to change though. he sort of maxxed out with clark in that arc. were dos fighting hulk, i think he would continue to get stronger until they both killed each other. thor--physically--really hasn't changed. in this type of scenario, i just think he would go all physical and THAT would be the problem for him. i guess it depends too, on what you feel dd was intended to be. and even THAT version of superman had some pretty uber feats that people forget about. phil listed them once i think. some were pretty uber, though i'm having trouble remembering specific ones. getting old blow ballzzz....

Yeah, even 90s Superman was pretty formidable and has some high end feats to compete with pre-reboot. Still, idk. Given how Hulk and Thor are currently portrayed by the latest couple of volumes of their respecting ongoings - not counting crossovers, team books, events, etc - I think either one of them could definitely beat Doomsday without dying. If Thor was disarmed, he'd be in worse shape, but even if he does melee mostly with Mjolnir with the occasional hammer toss and lightning blast, he has what it takes to win.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, even 90s Superman was pretty formidable and has some high end feats to compete with pre-reboot. Still, idk. Given how Hulk and Thor are currently portrayed by the latest couple of volumes of their respecting ongoings - not counting crossovers, team books, events, etc - I think either one of them could definitely beat Doomsday without dying. If Thor was disarmed, he'd be in worse shape, but even if he does melee mostly with Mjolnir with the occasional hammer toss and lightning blast, he has what it takes to win.

If Doomsday is created with the same intention of showing an heroic death. Any herald will die.

Now based on power levels portrayed on that decade and comparing them with each other. IMO

Silver Surfer of that era will survive
Thor of that era could survive
Hulk of that era dies.

professor hulk would lose
savage would eventually win imo
current... who the phuck knows
pak hulk/green scar HAHAHAHAHA!

Thor has the power set to put DOS DD down, vastly more versatile than Superman and just as strong, Thor does have and edge he can go warrior madness or belt of strength and would be willingly to kill a lot quicker than Superman.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has the power set to put DOS DD down, vastly more versatile than Superman and just as strong, Thor does have and edge he can go warrior madness or belt of strength and would be willingly to kill a lot quicker than Superman.

1. Thor is not as strong as Superman, never has been either.
2. Thor will never go into warrior madness in a forum fight unless specified by OP. Thor has never entered warrior madness even in a comic.
3. Belt of strength isn't standard equipment.
4. Thor is a lot slower than Superman and DD and also his primary mentality is to brawl. Thus his versatility edge is diminished.

Thor's biggest problem is his mentality and his lack of speed against beings who turn on the speed. Superman even had problems with DD's speed.

CIS/CIP rules say different.

Originally posted by leonidas
^not sure about that. imo, hulk would die. thor is different. he could simply use bfr. if he tried going h2h ala superman, then yeah, i'd say he'd die too.

Maybe if DD koed him and kept beating on him, but I can't see him getting killed on his feet by a being of DD's level

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can Hulk even die?

Maybe if DD koed him and kept beating on him, but I can't see him getting killed on his feet by a being of DD's level

Savage Hulk can be beaten, maybe even be killed... but not by someone on Doomsday's level.

At this point, Doomsday has just not aged well as a concept and had literally succumbed to reverse ninja rule in his penultimate tale Reign of the Doomsdays. I don't even think Wonder Man would be defeated by him at this point (although that also has to do with Wonder Man's stock raising from second-rate Thor schmoe).

Thor would win probably win ( at least Thor in his ongoing) though he would be forced to bust out the huge top level attacks and be pushed to the brink. Savage hulk could win a battle of attrition or perhaps get koed but His Hf is way too good for him to be outright killed in such a physical confrontation. Grey hulk and Prof hulk would lose. Greenscar would straight up annihilate him.

Originally posted by ODG
This. 👆

Savage Hulk can be beaten, maybe even be killed... but not by someone on Doomsday's level.

At this point, Doomsday has just not aged well as a concept and had literally succumbed to reverse ninja rule in his penultimate tale Reign of the Doomsdays. I don't even think Wonder Man would be defeated by him at this point (although that also has to do with Wonder Man's stock raising from second-rate Thor schmoe).

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Can Hulk even die?

Maybe if DD koed him and kept beating on him, but I can't see him getting killed on his feet by a being of DD's level

yeah, i wondered if hulk could die too. but to odg's point--it's why i've said many times that it's hard to compare eras sometimes. do we view him as the character he was intended to be portrayed as, or do we look strictly at what he did then (and retroactively it was shown he had some UBER feats in h/p, so should all those feats be ascribed to dos as well?)

i think even dos dd would kill thor if thor fought like supes does. hulk, given some of his more recent feats, is a lot more difficult to say that about. could be though that dd would simply adapt a way to kill him, though it might kill him in the doing.