DOS Doomsday Repeat

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Originally posted by h1a8
1. Thor is not as strong as Superman, never has been either.
2. Thor will never go into warrior madness in a forum fight unless specified by OP. Thor has never entered warrior madness even in a comic.
3. Belt of strength isn't standard equipment.
4. Thor is a lot slower than Superman and DD and also his primary mentality is to brawl. Thus his versatility edge is diminished.

Thor's biggest problem is his mentality and his lack of speed against beings who turn on the speed. Superman even had problems with DD's speed.

Oh STFU, I dont care what you think troll, pretty much no else does either!

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i wondered if hulk could die too. but to odg's point--it's why i've said many times that it's hard to compare eras sometimes. do we view him as the character he was intended to be portrayed as, or do we look strictly at what he did then (and retroactively it was shown he had some UBER feats in h/p, so should all those feats be ascribed to dos as well?)

i think even dos dd would kill thor if thor fought like supes does. hulk, given some of his more recent feats, is a lot more difficult to say that about. could be though that dd would simply adapt a way to kill him, though it might kill him in the doing.

IIRC DOS DD was weakened for like a couple thousand years before then due to his imprisonment

HP fought a more powerful Superman and completely handled him

If Thor actually tried I could see him crashing DD's head in

Fraction's Thor would probably call him obscenities before killing him.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i wondered if hulk could die too. but to odg's point--it's why i've said many times that it's hard to compare eras sometimes. do we view him as the character he was intended to be portrayed as, or do we look strictly at what he did then (and retroactively it was shown he had some UBER feats in h/p, so should all those feats be ascribed to dos as well?)

i think even dos dd would kill thor if thor fought like supes does. hulk, given some of his more recent feats, is a lot more difficult to say that about. could be though that dd would simply adapt a way to kill him, though it might kill him in the doing.

Doomsday basically went the way of Abomination. The basic concept underlying him just continually eroded over the years (with one or two exceptions) until it pretty much hit bottom. That's really all there is to it.

Meanwhile, Thor fought off WWH amped with a Mjolnir knockoff while double-teamed by another entity that had curbstomped Rulk almost effortlessly (Angrir). All while fighting like Superman. The method of battle here doesn't seem all that relevant in the face of that.

And Thor was weakened in This fight.

Sentry. Sentry might get killed in the first battle, but I wonder what DD would do when Bob popped right back in again. Eventually if Sentry couldnt kill him, i'm sure he would go Voidtry and that would be the end of that for old DD.

Lulz @lowballing in this thread. Any being in Thor class strength would die. For those who think that DOS Doomsday was so weak, the fight was again referenced in Day of Doom and DCU: Legacies where it happened just a few years back in comic time (sliding time rule) and strangely, he still killed superman. As for byrne superman, he was still stronger than Thor. Easily if we go by feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz @lowballing in this thread. Any being in Thor class strength would die. For those who think that DOS Doomsday was so weak, the fight was again referenced in Day of Doom and DCU: Legacies where it happened just a few years back in comic time (sliding time rule) and strangely, he still killed superman. As for byrne superman, he was still stronger than Thor. Easily if we go by feats.

Who is lowballing in this thead and how so?

If anything, people, including myself, are using the feats of Thor and Hulk to suggest that they'd win and survive, not lowballing Doomsday.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fraction's Thor would probably call him obscenities before killing him.

👆

"Spiked, bastard, &*%, $&*#, @#$!"

-Knocks him into space.-

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Who is lowballing in this thead and how so?

If anything, people, including myself, are using the feats of Thor and Hulk to suggest that they'd win and survive, not lowballing Doomsday.


Who's lowballing? The whole thread is full of it. Well, the thing is byrne superman has better strength feats than thor or savage or merged hulk. Heck, the earth pull with Hal against starbreaker is from byrne era. I don't know how they would survive when he couldn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's lowballing? The whole thread is full of it. Well, the thing is byrne superman has better strength feats than thor or savage or merged hulk. Heck, the earth pull with Hal against starbreaker is from byrne era. I don't know how they would survive when he couldn't.

barker

Who exactly is lowballing him, though?

Looking back at Thor and Hulk's respective feats and what they've endured within the past handful of years alone suggests they could survive Doomsday, even if neither of them are as strong as he is (and pure strength alone isn't going to dictate this match either, not considering Thor's power output and Hulk's ability to amp and heal).

As if you had to ask who's lowballing Jake

Nova prime.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's lowballing? The whole thread is full of it. Well, the thing is byrne superman has better strength feats than thor or savage or merged hulk. Heck, the earth pull with Hal against starbreaker is from byrne era. I don't know how they would survive when he couldn't.

😂 Just like that scan you like to use of you claiming Superman is pushing a planet size ship and a moon but in the same scene Superman states he can't move a planet.

😂 this guy.

Beta Ray Bill I think could give DoS Doomsday one hell of a physical fight and win If not recreate the duel death scene Doomy had with Superman (for dramatic effect 👆 )

Sentry I can see swooping in to save the avengers and getting beat up in a straight physical encounter until getting serious and cutting loose on DD and using more exotic powers of blasts(like VS WWH) and if that fails then like someone above said Void would handle business.

Current Hyperion and Blue Marvel I also think can take him.
Juggernaut could take him physically.

I'd be interested in seeing DoS doomsday VS classic count Nefaria

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
barker

Who exactly is lowballing him, though?

Looking back at Thor and Hulk's respective feats and what they've endured within the past handful of years alone suggests they could survive Doomsday, even if neither of them are as strong as he is (and pure strength alone isn't going to dictate this match either, not considering Thor's power output and Hulk's ability to amp and heal).


Thor's power output isn't greater than Superman, Martian Manhunter, Guy Gardner, Fire, Ice and Booster Gold's combined power output which Doomsday completely no sold. Not even close to it. Pak hulk, sure. Thor of previous few years would be oneshotted like Bloodwynd and Maxima. Superman was hurting his hands punching doomsday. Thor isn't winning againrt doomsday. At least not in character.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
As if you had to ask who's lowballing Jake

Surfer would get his shit pushed in btw.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 Just like that scan you like to use of you claiming Superman is pushing a planet size ship and a moon but in the same scene Superman states he can't move a planet.

😂 this guy.


Don't talk about things you don't know. I've destroyed your BS about this many times.

Originally posted by carver9
😂 Just like that scan you like to use of you claiming Superman is pushing a planet size ship and a moon but in the same scene Superman states he can't move a planet.

😂 this guy.

He's probably talking about this one. Crazy feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't talk about things you don't know. I've destroyed your BS about this many times.

Hard to argue against something that was stated on panel, bro.