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Re: Re: Can the Sword of Gryffindor destroy Sauron's ring ?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Hell phucking no./thread
Well maybe... I mean i don't recall them actually TRYING to destroy the ring in LotR, they were just like "Oh this can only be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom" and everyone just kinda went with it. It's been a while since I've seen the first movie tho
the Dwarf guy got up in the begining of the first one and tried to hit it with his axe. He was thrown back a few feet and his axe shattered. The ring didnt even move.
Since the Sword of Griffindor takes in only what makes it stronger... If it is dipped into the Fires of Mount Doom then I can see it breaking the ring. But if it isnt then No, it can not.
Re: Re: Re: Can the Sword of Gryffindor destroy Sauron's ring ?
Originally posted by juggerman
Well maybe... I mean i don't recall them actually TRYING to destroy the ring in LotR, they were just like "Oh this can only be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom" and everyone just kinda went with it. It's been a while since I've seen the first movie tho
Gimli tried to with his ax in the first film.
Those people(Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf) who made the claim where pretty knowledgeable about it. It's set lore.
Originally posted by juggerman
Yeah i guess i forgot that part. But Gimli's axe is not magical. I'm not saying it would surely break it but i don't think you should dismiss it so easily.
The wands in HP are also magical, are you saying a 1st year could destroy the ring(assuming they can cast a cutting/blasting curse).
Originally posted by Silent Master
The wands in HP are also magical, are you saying a 1st year could destroy the ring(assuming they can cast a cutting/blasting curse).
Not at all. What I'm saying is in HP the sword was able to do things wands could not, like destroying a Horcrux for example, and if you recall only extremely powerful magical items or spells could do that.
EDIT: Again i am not saying it's a sure thing but to discount it completely so easily seems foolish to me when it has proven to be hella strong.
Originally posted by juggerman
Not at all. What I'm saying is in HP the sword was able to do things wands could not, like destroying a Horcrux for example, and if you recall only extremely powerful magical items or spells could do that.EDIT: Again i am not saying it's a sure thing but to discount it completely so easily seems foolish to me when it has proven to be hella strong.
Basilisk venom and Fiendfyre have destroyed horcruxes, in fact the entire reason that the sword was able to destroy them is because it had absorbed basilisk venom.
So the real question is, can basilisk venom destroy the ring?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Basilisk venom and Fiendfyre have destroyed horcruxes, in fact the entire reason that the sword was able to destroy them is because it had absorbed basilisk venom.So the real question is, can basilisk venom destroy the ring?
I know that was the point in the book but was that covered in the movie?
In the Books AND the Movies it was said that the Sword of Gryphindor takes in that which is stronger. FACT!
However I do not see the current sword breaking the One Ring.
BUT if the Sword is dipped into the Fires of Mount Doom, take in the power of the Fire since that is what the Sword does, I would say it certainly could destroy it.
Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
BUT if the Sword is dipped into the Fires of Mount Doom, take in the power of the Fire since that is what the Sword does, I would say it certainly could destroy it.
While that sounds plausible, the whole mimicking of powers approach, could the sword survive being dipped into Mount Doom's lava in the first place?
Originally posted by Robtard
While that sounds plausible, the whole mimicking of powers approach, could the sword survive being dipped into Mount Doom's lava in the first place?
This of course is just me taking a guess.