loki vs martian manhunter

Started by mighty adam7 pages

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Loki is alot more impressive than MM overall.

Edit: on loki's speed.
'almost at the speed of thought'
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-03.jpg

'at the speed of thought' he teleports arriving in disguise
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journey_in_to_mystery085-03.jpg

Dodges thors hammer
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/random%20comic%20feats/Journeyintomystery088-06.jpg

mm has better feats using his speed in combat. No I won't say loki is more impressive just has high end magic.

Originally posted by mighty adam
mm has better feats using his speed in combat. No I won't say loki is more impressive just has high end magic.

MM's speed isn't the be all/end all to this contest. Loki's got an answer for virtually every power or ability that J'onn has.

Mm didn't have the fire weakness anymore...dam writers need to acknowledge that. So no loki won't be burning shit but loki magic is so strong do he really need fire?

Mm can steal mass from the earth punch loki head into space bfr... I know loki won't die but its a bfr mm wins.

I'm not even factoring in the fire weakness, tbh. Loki's power output is enough to damage the likes of the entire Thor Corps, Thor himself, and even beings outside of his tier.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Mm can steal mass from the earth punch loki head into space bfr... I know loki won't die but its a bfr mm wins.

Loki phases through it or makes an illusion for J'onn to attack or teleports away.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki phases through it or makes an illusion for J'onn to attack or teleports away.
mm can engage him in a tp battle that he would win. Mind rape

Originally posted by mighty adam
mm can engage him in a tp battle that he would win. Mind rape

Loki would give as good as he can get or he could merely cloak himself from MM and attack him from that state.

Does MM even have better speed feats than Loki?

depends entirely upon how much stock you place on those 40yr old 'speed of thought' scans.....anyone have speed scans of loki within say, the last 25yrs...?

i'd say mm has a very clear speed advantage, especially combat speed, (dude has easily blitzed white martians, the same ones who donned the guise of zum among other things) but i don't think it would matter all that much in this fight.

He's phased through or teleported away from Mjolnir tosses pretty regularly. Thor's hammer tosses are anywhere from supersonic and on up, imo.

I will say that J'onn's speed will probably mean poop in this fight, though, too.

Not a good matchup for MM 🙂

Originally posted by mighty adam
mm has better feats using his speed in combat. No I won't say loki is more impressive just has high end magic.
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Who wants you to say Loki is more impressive? That's my opinion _😉

Well Loki's thing is magic and he does it very well.
Here I'll share some feats.

I'll leave the 'turning bor into snow' feat out as I sure you've seen it.

Dormammu acknowledges Loki's power being near his own
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower10Avengers115.jpg

Smashes boulders
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiStrength02Avengers300.jpg

Loki prepares to fight Disir (oh look,fire 😄 )
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104794/2106774-letter_38.jpeg

Loki singlehandedly defeats the Disir in hand to hand combat.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104794/2106775-letter_39.jpeg

Smashes a building with a single blow
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiStrength01147.jpg

Pimp-smack defeat masterson Thor
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiStrength03441.jpg

Tears down steel doors with no effort
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiStrength04DRTheCabal1.jpg

Enclosed between near million ton of earth_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability06WestCoastAvengers55.jpg

Masterson Thor tags him with storm breaker and it doesn't do much
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability07441.jpg

Takes multiple shots by Thor
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability11.jpg

Surtur swipes both Loki and Odin with the Twilight Sword itself and they both immediately recover to continue their assault on him
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability03.jpg

Incineration chamber does nothing
_http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability14.jpg

Takes visions phasing attack to the chest while pretending to be Scarlet Witch
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiDurability15MightyAvengers29.jpg

Again. Speed of thought
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed00aJIM85.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed00JIM88.jpg

His reflexes and speed at spell-casting have also been stated to measured at the speed of thought
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed02Avengers1.jpg

How fast is the "speed of thought"? This scene gives a clue. Here, Loki is tricked into racing an opponent on foot. After losing, his opponent is revealed to be Loki's own thoughts, "which fly at a speed beyond all reckoning. Not lightning itself can outstrip the power of thought."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed06272.jpg

Gets his head cut off by Balder, magic durability is nice to have.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/104794/2035323-loki_headless2.jpg

Dodges thors hammer
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed01JIM88.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed03JIM108.jpg

His agility has permitted him to grab hold of a speeding Silver Surfer
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed05.jpg

speed of Loki's perception is also great and has permitted him to seize upon radio waves, which travel at the speed of light, and redirect them before reaching their intended destination
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed01aAvengers1.jpg

In terms of traveling by flight, he can traverse the terrain of Asgard's many realms swiftly
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed08318.jpg

He has sped around the Earth
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed04SS4.jpg

Avoids thors hammer blows
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSpeed16FirstThunder2.jpg

Loki has honed his combat skills during millennia of fighting in defense of, and against, Asgard. His swordsmanship is rarely displayed. Here, he fends off and disarms the Lady Sif
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiSkill01153.jpg

Despite being in astral form which reduces the amount of magical power to only a fraction, Loki's great power still exceeds that of the then-Master of the Mystic Arts, Dr. Strange
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower02StrangeTales123.jpg

When confronting his full magical power, unreduced by manifesting in astral form, Dr. Strange exclaims that it is "the most powerful, the most awesome [he had] ever encountered."
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower03JIM108.jpg

Silver surfer remarks about Loki's power "power such as his can decimate a planet"_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower05SS4.jpg

This is no mere boast as Loki literally permits Surfer to traverse past Galactus' barrier
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower06.jpg

When Loki wrestles with Dormammu at the climax of the Avengers/Defenders War, the Evil Eye absorbs and blasts out Dormammu's power into Loki. Loki is driven insane by the ordeal
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower11Avengers118.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower12Avengers119.jpg

Except it was all a ruse. Loki had replaced his seemingly catatonic form with that of a child, who had remained behind for months in Loki's place. Loki absorbed all of Dormammu's power and studied the extent of his powers during that time
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower13232.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower14.jpg

After both Odin and Thor are laid low, Loki tackles Surtur the Fire Demon on his own and holds him off for precious minutes while his family recovers
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower15353.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower16.jpg

While ultimately unsuccessful, Loki's astral form can, and has, clashed with Odin's, "simultaneously on every conceivable astral and metaphysical plane,"_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower22455.jpg

_when fully manifesting physically, Loki's magical power increases from the fraction it is when in astral form
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower29AvengersTheOrigin3.jpg

Here, Apocalypse's Celestial draining machines fail to contain Loki. Calibak remains in genuine awe of Loki's power and worries that Loki may follow through on his threats of death. Apocalypse does not dispel those concerns or mitigates the threat that Loki presents
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower20XFactor50.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower21.jpg

Loki's power is so great that he has also managed to trap and contain Mistress Death herself against her will
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower24Deadpool34.jpg

Loki's magical power is also made evident by the force he can bring to bear offensively. Here, Loki's astral form nearly destroys the protective mystic shield conjured by Dr. Strange's Amulet of Agamotto with his mystic blasts_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower01StrangeTales123.jpg

Channels a mystic bolt threw Balders sword _by touch
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower03189.jpg

Despite being ambushed by binding spells, Loki's magic initially proves superior to Seth's, despite Seth drawing upon his entire dimension for additional power
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower23JIM511.jpg

Loki has fired a magical arrow at Warlock, a Technarch, powerful enough to completely scrambled him to near death_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells17-MagicalArrow.jpg

Blasts the thor corps off their feet
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower06441.jpg

Loki follows up by rendering both Beta Ray Bill and Masterson Thor completely senseless with channeled mystical blasts
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower08.jpg

Loki can emit omnidirectional blasts that stagger even an amped Seth
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiBlastPower09JIM513.jpg

Loki's force-fields have protected him from the Disir's wrath in pitched battle
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiForcefields04SiegeLoki1.jpg

Despite being used seldomly, one of Loki's most enduring signature powers is the ability to create copies of himself in battle. These copies were not illusions but actual physical copies. He first uses them in Avengers #1
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiCopies01Avengers1.jpg

Uses copies to fight Surtur_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiCopies02353.jpg

Loki's illusions can be gigantic as he fools Surtur with an illusion of the Eternal Flame
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIllusions03353.jpg

Loki's illusions are not static either. He can make the most unfortunate Thunderstrike look like Xemnu to She-Hulks eyes throughout a fight_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIllusions06Thunderstrike21.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIllusions07.jpg

Loki's illusions are so adept they have even fooled and manipulated the wise Odin who does not discern their sinister origins
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIllusions08v312.jpg

The versatility by which Loki can phase makes him one of the more superior phasing characters in comics. Loki can dimensionally phase as he saves his enchanted sword from shattering by Mjolnir
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiPhasing01JIM115.jpg

Here, Loki effects a molecular phase to save Thor from the Destroyer in Journey Into Mystery #119. Note also the vast range he possesses as Loki's all the way in Asgard and Thor's on Earth
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiPhasing02JIM119.jpg

His ability to phase appears to be as effortless as it is instantaneous as he comfortably phases between panels
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiPhasing04397.jpg

Loki's phased state does not prevent him from casting spells either while remaining in a phased state as he contemplates here in Thor #397 and actually does so in Thor #398 where he magically gifts half his strength to Thor and teleports away
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiPhasing05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthTransfer03398.jpg

It isn't just critters that Loki can transform into but also great winged dragons
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiShapeshifting07aMarvelFanfare37.jpg

Loki can still cast spells in his shape-shifted form. Here, as a fly, Loki casts a spell of silence
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells20-SilenceSpell365.jpg

Obviously, Loki's shape-shifting serves him well for purposes of subterfuge. However, Loki can and has challenged foes physically in battles with his shape-shifting, as he does here with Thor himself in a dizzying (and brutal) array of shape-shifting
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiShapeshifting20.jpg

As a descendant of Frost Giants, it makes sense that Loki can grow to greater sizes to combat his foes, as he does here against the poor Lady Sif_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSizeshifting02191.jpg

Growing again
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSizeshifting04X-MenAlphaFlight2.jpg

Loki's ability to perceive events from afar is nearly unparalleled. Even imprisoned on Asgard, he can concentrate and spy on his hated stepbrother on Earth
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision01JIM92.jpg

Loki does not require a personal connection to his target either. Simply by willing it, he can track targets he has never met... even when they manifest in disguised forms, as with Ghost Rider in the form of Danny Ketch
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision07430.jpg

Loki doesn't even need to concentrate on a specific target. From the Isle of Silence, Loki can scan the entire planet and have significant figures come into view, from Avengers #300 and re-presented in Avengers: The Origin #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision03Avengers300.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision11AvengersTheOrigin1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision12.jpg

Loki's clairvoyance extends to the temporal. Simply by concentrating, he can see a target's past as he does with Silver Surfer
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision02SilverSurfer4.jpg

Loki can further scale his vision down to the micro-scale and perceive objects as tiny as DNA
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiVision16ThorFirstThunder3.jpg

Physical boundaries are meaningless to Loki as he has the magical ability to teleport. "Faster than the brain can comprehend," Loki can teleport the Absorbing Man to and from desolate places
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation02JIM122.jpg

A handy maneuver, Loki can even switch his own location with another's instantly
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation28God-Sized1.jpg

Loki's physical presence is not required as Loki's astral form can banish the cosmically powered Silver Surfer (no stranger to spatial powers himself)_http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation03SilverSurfer4.jpg

Teleports/summons an enchanted axe from limbo
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTeleportation12275.jpg

Loki also famously converted his entire physical form into a dangerously radioactive energy at the end of Avengers #1. As retold in Avengers: The Origin #3, Iron Man's sensors can't even identify what energy he's become
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnergyManipulation09AvengersTheOrigin3.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnergyManipulation02Avengers1.jpg

In Thor's experience, it is only Loki who could transmute a simple cloud into an actual dragon
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTransmutation07JIM92.jpg

He melds minds with a resurrected Odin to penetrate his subconscious
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTelepathy04JIM511.jpg

When the Enchantress begins altering the fabric of reality and memory by manipulating the World Tree with her magicks, Loki melds the minds of Thor and Balder and her own's to pierce through the reality changes being wrought in Thor: God-Sized #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTelepathy07God-Sized1.jpg

Loki played with Osborn's psyche -- a psyche that proved formidable even for X-Man
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiTelepathy09MightyAvengers33.jpg

Loki has used his headpiece to create a mystic cage. Dr. Strange must use his Amulet of Agamotto to escape_http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiSpells03-MysticCageStrangeTales123.jpg

He kept the Red Skull, the Wizard and the Mandarin helplessly bound
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiBinding03WestCoastAvengers55.jpg

Loki's bound his own daughter (under Morwen's control), in a binding spell
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiBinding04ASMv262.jpg

Loki can even bind souls with his magicks
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiBinding06SiegeLoki1.jpg

Loki's bound Kelda's spirit
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiBinding07614.jpg

Loki has quite a penchant for sapping the strength of super-powered victims. Loki is capable of transforming Hulk and instantly sapping his gamma-spawned power despite plunging dangerously into a ravine
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping01TalesToAstonish101.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping03.jpg

Loki can weave spells onto an entire realm and halve the strength of even Thor
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping04275.jpg

Loki completely saps the Asgardian power from each of the Wrecking Crew with but a touch, and transfers it to himself,_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping05430.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping06.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping08431.jpg

wove spells on the powerful and unwitting Godstorm which would transfer all of its power to Loki whenever he wanted to claim it. When Loki ambushes him from behind with an attack, he elicits a blast of power from the Godstorm which Loki absorbs with the rest of his power
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiStrengthSapping09Godstorm3.jpg

Now onto something important... FIRE

Loki incinerates Thor's make-shift mallet_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration01JIM92.jpg

Loki fires a powerful fireball that literally melts amped Frost Giants as it weaves through them
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration02378.jpg

Even Iron Man's armor cannot fully protect him from Loki's conjured fire
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration03403.jpg

Loki follows up a touch of enchanted frost with a touch of incineration upon Thor
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration04432.jpg

Snap of the fingers and a frost giant is incinerated_
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration06v312.jpg

More fire
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiIncineration07603.jpg

He also has ice. Weather control magic and earth manipulation magic.
I put all this up to show a little bit why i find him more impressive and to show a little of why I think he has a better chance than some might think.

J'onn wins. LOL @ loki using his weakness. Its like he has a poster on his back "Fire is my weakness".

Originally posted by Digi
J'onn is stronger and probably somewhat faster. But I can't think of a single one of his powers that Loki can't replicate or top. I cannot say the same in reverse, and the trump card that is magic is also an element here. He would need to fight smart, but Loki for the solid majority.

Loki can't replicate J'onn's telepathy at his level.

Loki uses fire based attacks pretty often. Even summons a fire based melee weapon.

So...yeah. It's pretty likely Loki will use fire without even figuring out that J'onn's weak to it.

Posting respect thread makes you the winner apparently.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki uses fire based attacks pretty often. Even summons a fire based melee weapon.

So...yeah. It's pretty likely Loki will use fire without even figuring out that J'onn's weak to it.


Not before J'onn mindrapes him or just beat the shit out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not before J'onn mindrapes him or just beat the shit out of him.

Doubtful J'onn mindrapes him considering Loki can mask his presence to an insane degree and given his own mental prowess and feats.

As far as "beating the shit out of him" goes, that's also pretty unlikely given Loki's, well, feats in general.