loki vs martian manhunter

Originally posted by zopzop
Didn't he specifically prep for that?

Unless I missed something, he gets no prep here.

No he didn't.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Compare that to the rest of Loki's showings and Thor's.

In that same time frame and under the same writer, Simonson, Loki no sold a beheading. And a single tap from Mjolnir shattering Loki's arm that he can't heal right away through magic clearly isn't the norm for Thor. If it was, Thor would have maimed dozens of people whom he's struck harder than that.

Mjolnir's magic overcame Loki's enchantments which is why he got injured there but Balder's beheading was nothing. One of the reasons Thor is so effective against Loki aside from invoking CIS is that Mjolnir is a counter to a lot of his shit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because taking an ass beating isn't particularly impressive. See Sodam Yat. LOL @ it wrecking J'onn though. Maybe in your dreams.

Not a single panel though. He was actively restraining Diana, Orion and Barda while battling superman.

You mentioned his durability and brought that scene up. A one sided beating like that from Thor would definitely f*ck John, it would wreck almost anybody.

Like I said, a panel. Not to mention the league's CIS. Also, it's been a long time since I read John's solo series, but isn't that his brother there attacking Superman.

I also lol'ed at that. He's restraining Orion and Wonder Woman but battling Superman.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Compare that to the rest of Loki's showings and Thor's.

In that same time frame and under the same writer, Simonson, Loki no sold a beheading. And a single tap from Mjolnir shattering Loki's arm that he can't heal right away through magic clearly isn't the norm for Thor. If it was, Thor would have maimed dozens of people whom he's struck harder than that.

Surviving beheading has nothing to do with durability. Your tendency to spout random feats which have no bearing on the topic is getting at laughable heights.

😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mentioned his durability and brought that scene up. A one sided beating like that from Thor would definitely f*ck John, it would wreck almost anybody.

I also lol'ed at that. He's restraining Orion and Wonder Woman but battling Superman.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
Odin has effortlessely chumped Loki in telepathy. Lets not get carried away here. The only way Loki hides himself is because Odin often doesn't pays attention. Saying otherwise is trolling from you and a horrendous highballing.

Thor has knocked out Loki using just fists. That's not an area where he's above J'onn.

No need for it. Wrecker is a Thor class being when he's not power-sharing. Him oneshotting Loki isn't PIS.

Of course Odin beats Loki in a fight when he knows he's there. Loki hides himself from Odin because he's a skilled enough sorcerer to do so. There's been plenty of times where Odin has been trying to find Loki or get to the bottom of things and hasn't been able to. It's all on panel and is consistent with the histories of both characters.

Who cares?

Look at all the times Loki hasn't been one shotted and compared to the instances where he has. The evidence is so staggeringly in favor of it being a low end/PIS moment it's unreal. Stop trolling and spinning it as if it's not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surviving beheading has nothing to do with durability. Your tendency to spout random feats which have no bearing on the topic is getting at laughable heights.

😂

What's laughable here is your trolling and lowballing:

-Loki hiding himself from Odin/Mephisto are "high end feats"
-Loki was "amped" by a duplicate Mjolnir
-Wrecker one shot KOing Loki isn't PIS/very low end

Seriously, man, it's sad.

So, no high feats allowed for Loki, but MM holding off the League, and bringing Spectre to the astral plane are pretty OK?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because a beating doen't denotes durability. Fenris didn't get KOED either. That's just a proof that Thor punches like a sissy.

So, Thor, whose striking power is pretty documented, not being able to KO Loki isn't a durability feat for Loki?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Of course Odin beats Loki in a fight when he knows he's there. Loki hides himself from Odin because he's a skilled enough sorcerer to do so. There's been plenty of times where Odin has been trying to find Loki or get to the bottom of things and hasn't been able to. It's all on panel and is consistent with the histories of both characters.

Who cares?

Look at all the times Loki hasn't been one shotted and compared to the instances where he has. The evidence is so staggeringly in favor of it being a low end/PIS moment it's unreal. Stop trolling and spinning it as if it's not.

You do.

A large number of getting beaten by fists doesn't mean getting oneshotted by a thor level being is PIS. We can throw any feats we don't like by using that logic. Loki doesn't has such high durability. Accept it an move on.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What's laughable here is your trolling and lowballing:

-Loki hiding himself from Odin/Mephisto are "high end feats"
-Loki was "amped" by a duplicate Mjolnir
-Wrecker one shot KOing Loki isn't PIS/very low end

Seriously, man, it's sad.

-Yes, they are when we see Odin effortlessly punking Loki.
-He was amped IIRC.
-"Me said any low showing is PIS. Me only use high end showings."

That's what is sad. Your diplomatic answers don't fool anyone.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, Thor, whose striking power is pretty documented, not being able to KO Loki isn't a durability feat for Loki?

Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB oneshot killed Fenris. Thor couldn't KO him either in that showing. Does that mean BRB killing Fenris is PIS too? Pray tell.

Probably means that you should learn how to start counting and that BRB hits a bit harder with Mjolnir.

He hit him 8 times.

First once, then six "thooms" and then a final "kraka-doom".

Originally posted by abhilegend

-He was amped IIRC.

Not at that particular point. He turned into a skyfather at the end of the mini series when he took Asgard's power though.

Even without using high end feats, Loki still has good durability. He regularly fights Thor and can take a lot of hits before going down. That's not really debatable. He's got his low showings of course, but he's more than capable of taking punishment when need be. Not that he'd have to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB oneshot killed Fenris. Thor couldn't KO him either in that showing. Does that mean BRB killing Fenris is PIS too? Pray tell.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well that's settled then. Loki hiding himself from Odin when he isn't paying any attention doesn't mean he can hide himself from J'onn in combat anyway.

You do.

A large number of getting beaten by fists doesn't mean getting oneshotted by a thor level being is PIS. We can throw any feats we don't like by using that logic. Loki doesn't has such high durability. Accept it an move on.

He's hid himself from Odin when Odin was trying to find him and has fooled him - often to his face - multiple times. It certainly means he can hide from J'onn in combat, get real.

I wasn't the one who said J'onn can hit harder than Thor with or without Mjolnir, was I?

facepalm Loki's entire history suggests that him getting one shot by Wrecker is PIS/very low end. That's not debatable. That's what I'm saying.

Originally posted by abhilegend

-Yes, they are when we see Odin effortlessly punking Loki.
-He was amped IIRC.
-"Me said any low showing is PIS. Me only use high end showings."

That's what is sad. Your diplomatic answers don't fool anyone.

-Odin beating Loki in a fight =/= Loki clearly having the means to fool or hide himself from J'onn in the midst of combat.
-How was he amped? All it did was give him an enchanted uru weapon, which doesn't enhance his strength or durability at all. And this was well before he started absorbing energy from Asgard itself.
-The hell? I'm not using exclusively high end showings. I'm using Loki's history as a whole.

You are the last one to say anything about trying to fool anybody.

Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB oneshot killed Fenris. Thor couldn't KO him either in that showing. Does that mean BRB killing Fenris is PIS too? Pray tell.

He didn't one shot kill Fenris. facepalm

Either do the proper research, admit you're not sure, or stop lying all together.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsFenrisDurok04.jpg
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Thorshammmer/Thor%20feats/whodareslayhandsonthemightythor.jpg?t=1294027444

MYTH BUSTED.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
[b]MYTH BUSTED. [/B]

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
[b]MYTH BUSTED. [/B]

I'm so tempted to put that in the myth buster thread...

Originally posted by Damborgson
Not at that particular point. He turned into a skyfather at the end of the mini series when he took Asgard's power though.

Even without using high end feats, Loki still has good durability. He regularly fights Thor and can take a lot of hits before going down. That's not really debatable. He's got his low showings of course, but he's more than capable of taking punishment when need be. Not that he'd have to.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsFenrisDurok04.jpg
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Thorshammmer/Thor%20feats/whodareslayhandsonthemightythor.jpg?t=1294027444

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's hid himself from Odin when Odin was trying to find him and has fooled him - often to his face - multiple times. It certainly means he can hide from J'onn in combat, get real.

I wasn't the one who said J'onn can hit harder than Thor with or without Mjolnir, was I?

facepalm Loki's entire history suggests that him getting one shot by Wrecker is PIS/very low end. That's not debatable. That's what I'm saying.

-Odin beating Loki in a fight =/= Loki clearly having the means to fool or hide himself from J'onn in the midst of combat.
-How was he amped? All it did was give him an enchanted uru weapon, which doesn't enhance his strength or durability at all. And this was well before he started absorbing energy from Asgard itself.
-The hell? I'm not using exclusively high end showings. I'm using Loki's history as a whole.

You are the last one to say anything about trying to fool anybody.

He can certainly hit as hard as Thor's fists.

Why the long face? Loki getting oneshotted by Wrecker isn't as bad as him getting his arm broken by a mere tap from Thor. Now that's PIS too, right?

J'onn taking spectre to astral plane is better than anything Loki has done. He takes Loki into astral plane and punks him.

I misremembered. Ok.

You aren't? Could've been fooled me.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He didn't one shot kill Fenris. facepalm

Either do the proper research, admit you're not sure, or stop lying all together.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
[b]MYTH BUSTED. [/B]

Originally posted by abhilegend
I checked back and you're right. But that doesn't excuse Thor not being able to KO Fenris while BRB killing him.

Why?

Thor was hitting him AND Loki after fighting prior to that.

BRB had Stormbreaker.

Is MM really getting defended by using Loki low feats?

That's like pointing out low feats from Carnage when he's fighting Rhino.