loki vs martian manhunter

Started by Damborgson7 pages

And there's the fact that Thor was only using fists while BRB was using lightning and amped hammer slams.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What are Loki's best TP against top tier telepaths?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ah okay.
He has? I have seen Odin effortlessly finding and punking loki more times than not. If what you're saying is true, then its PIS. ~sly~

He can certainly hit as hard as Thor's fists.

Why the long face? Loki getting oneshotted by Wrecker isn't as bad as him getting his arm broken by a mere tap from Thor. Now that's PIS too, right?

J'onn taking spectre to astral plane is better than anything Loki has done. He takes Loki into astral plane and punks him.

I misremembered. Ok.

You aren't? Could've been fooled me.

Odin being vastly more powerful than Loki and curbing him in a fight, again, has no bearing on whether or not Loki can trick J'onn or cast illusions on him successfully. C'mon, man.

So dropping the contention J'onn hits as hard as Mjolnir?

Are you serious with this? Mjolnir breaking Loki's arm with a tap that Loki couldn't heal with magic isn't the norm for Thor at all. If it was, he would have destroyed countless people with it. Said strike was designed to get around Loki's healing magic. Chalk it up to another plot device Mjolnir moment. Certainly not PIS when weighed against everything else that damn hammer has done, but nice try. Using two radically different and wild feats on Loki's behalf still doesn't change the fact that historically, Loki's durable enough to not be one shot KO'd by Wrecker. Prove otherwise.

Spectre being dragged to the Astral Plane against his will isn't PIS for Spectre? Look at J'onn's average and Spectre's and tell me it isn't with a straight face.

"Misremembering". Ok.

Uh, I'm not the guy whose "misremembering" at best and brazen lie at worst just got exposed for everyone to see.

Again.

Although its kind of amusing how all of Thorbags have attacked me for saying anybody other than thor can beat loki.

mmm

Does Spectre even have TP defense? Serious question.

Because Batman and ****ing Kyle Gaynor have resisted mental fudgepackery better than him.

I have a perfectly good explanation for that.

Martian Manhunter's jobber level is = 80
Spectre's jobber level = 100+

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Does Spectre even have TP defense? Serious question.

Because Batman and ****ing Kyle Gaynor have resisted mental fudgepackery better than him.

Depending on which version, he has had some defenses.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I checked back and you're right. But that doesn't excuse Thor not being able to KO Fenris while BRB killing him.
Don't tell me you are still butthurt from that thread.

...Bill blasted Fenris with lightning and then wailed on him with more than half a dozen unanswered amped Stormbreaker shots. 😐

How is proving you wrong in the Myth Busting thread, a thread you more or less turned into a lowballing thread where you can pick apart feats you don't like or understand before being told off by mods equal me being butthurt?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Although its kind of amusing how all of Thorbags have attacked me for saying anybody other than thor can beat loki.

mmm

If by "attacking" you mean pointing out your lowballing/trolling/lying...

😂 @ trying to look like a victim or that people are unfairly picking on you, though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Although its kind of amusing how all of Thorbags have attacked me for saying anybody other than thor can beat loki.

mmm

I posted scans of what you said being wrong. 😬 and I didn't lowball Lokis durability. I hope you can stand after that brutal attack of mine.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Does Spectre even have TP defense? Serious question.

Because Batman and ****ing Kyle Gaynor have resisted mental fudgepackery better than him.

Noob Hal [as in, he just got Spectre's power and was getting used to it] overpowered a psychic [who had absorbed the power of other most powerful psychics in existence, and who also had completly destroyed DC earth and everybody on it - including the Justice League, some of whom were dead and others broken].

Then there's also him:

Scanning the entire Universe for the trans.
Merging the minds of all the league with his own consciousness.
Collected all of the human misery and suffering through the temporal timeline, and then psychically fed it to Sitgmonus
His mind functioning on an Universal level.
Spectre's body is a consciousness itself, containing eternity itself.
shitload of etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
...Bill blasted Fenris with lightning and then wailed on him with more than half a dozen unanswered amped Stormbreaker shots. 😐

How is proving you wrong in the Myth Busting thread, a thread you more or less turned into a lowballing thread where you can pick apart feats you don't like or understand before being told off by mods equal me being butthurt?


I just vaguely remembered BRB attacking Fenris and standing over him. I don't remember every Tho/BRB showings like true thorbags like you so forgive me.

Lulz. You didn't prove me wrong, you just posted a few scans and went "Do you really believe that bro" routine and then bailed out. Classic butthurt scenario.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If by "attacking" you mean pointing out your lowballing/trolling/lying...

😂 @ trying to look like a victim or that people are unfairly picking on you, though.


Just attacking like "Myth busting bro", "Me am so witty and funny". Seriously?

Abhi, stop baiting people.

Those are some great TP feats.
Loki has a few like that of his own, scanning the universe for this and that.

Do you have any combat-tp feats?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Odin being vastly more powerful than Loki and curbing him in a fight, again, has no bearing on whether or not Loki can trick J'onn or cast illusions on him successfully. C'mon, man.

So dropping the contention J'onn hits as hard as Mjolnir?

Are you serious with this? Mjolnir breaking Loki's arm with a tap that Loki couldn't heal with magic isn't the norm for Thor at all. If it was, he would have destroyed countless people with it. Said strike was designed to get around Loki's healing magic. Chalk it up to another plot device Mjolnir moment. Certainly not PIS when weighed against everything else that damn hammer has done, but nice try. Using two radically different and wild feats on Loki's behalf still doesn't change the fact that historically, Loki's durable enough to not be one shot KO'd by Wrecker. Prove otherwise.

Spectre being dragged to the Astral Plane against his will isn't PIS for Spectre? Look at J'onn's average and Spectre's and tell me it isn't with a straight face.

"Misremembering". Ok.

Uh, I'm not the guy whose "misremembering" at best and brazen lie at worst just got exposed for everyone to see.

Again.

You are using Odin as benchmark for Loki. I'm using Spectre, Adam one, nearly omniotent Dr. Destiny, Worloggog Joker and such for J'onn. Odin is small potato compared to those guys. J'onn effortlessly punks Loki using high end feats.

Never said that. Thor has knocked out loki with just fists though.

Thor broke Loki's arm with a tap. That isn't a high feat for thor, it shows how weak Loki is. That's just it. You going on a rant won't change it.

Loki hiding from Odin isn't PIS? Look at Odin's average and Loki's and tell that to me with a straight face.

Yeah, misremembered.

Lulz.

Originally posted by curryman
Those are some great TP feats.
Loki has a few like that of his own, scanning the universe for this and that.

Do you have any combat-tp feats?

When did Loki scanned the whole universe? J'onn has scanned entire dimensions and timelines to locate a time-displaced Flash though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I just vaguely remembered BRB attacking Fenris and standing over him. I don't remember every Tho/BRB showings like true thorbags like you so forgive me.

Lulz. You didn't prove me wrong, you just posted a few scans and went "Do you really believe that bro" routine and then bailed out. Classic butthurt scenario.
Just attacking like "Myth busting bro", "Me am so witty and funny". Seriously?

"Vaguely" remembered? You claimed that Bill one shot KO'd Fenris and then asked whether or not it should be PIS because Thor couldn't. You then said, "well, Thor not KOing him isn't impressive because Bill killed him"...even though Bill blasted him and hit him like eight times. Using the whole "well, you're a fanboy for remembering the showing" is a sad attempt at trying to spin this around on me and others when you were the one to bring it up in the first place as "proof".

Thing is, this wouldn't be such a sad thing if this was an isolated incident in this thread, let alone as a whole, but it's not. Through out this entire thread, you've done nothing but "vaguely remember" feats, dismiss the ones you don't like, and use low end showings for Loki to put over J'onn while clinging onto J'onn punking Spectre as the sole reason why he'd win this. Your posts speak for themselves and even non "Thorbags" have pointed it out. But, no, clearly, you're just a victim here. 👆

I didn't prove you wrong? So, I didn't prove that the Thor Corps feat was indeed Multiversal and Thor was indeed 616 and the overwhelming majority of people, "Thorbags" and non-affiliated posters as well, didn't agree with me and feel that you were "vaguely remembering" the feat?

Kinda arrogant on your part.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did Loki scanned the whole universe? J'onn has scanned entire dimensions and timelines to locate a time-displaced Flash though.

When he located Super-Skrull and manipulated him.

That is very impressive, and I don't doubt that J'onnz wins in the universe-scanning department.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
"Vaguely" remembered? You claimed that Bill one shot KO'd Fenris and then asked whether or not it should be PIS because Thor couldn't. You then said, "well, Thor not KOing him isn't impressive because Bill killed him"...even though Bill blasted him and hit him like eight times. Using the whole "well, you're a fanboy for remembering the showing" is a sad attempt at trying to spin this around on me and others when you were the one to bring it up in the first place as "proof".

Thing is, this wouldn't be such a sad thing if this was an isolated incident in this thread, let alone as a whole, but it's not. Through out this entire thread, you've done nothing but "vaguely remember" feats, dismiss the ones you don't like, and use low end showings for Loki to put over J'onn while clinging onto J'onn punking Spectre as the sole reason why he'd win this. Your posts speak for themselves and even non "Thorbags" have pointed it out. But, no, clearly, you're just a victim here. 👆

I didn't prove you wrong? So, I didn't prove that the Thor Corps feat was indeed Multiversal and Thor was indeed 616 and the overwhelming majority of people, "Thorbags" and non-affiliated posters as well, didn't agree with me and feel that you were "vaguely remembering" the feat?

Kinda arrogant on your part.


Yeah vaguely remembered. I remembered this scene but not the following.

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/brb_fenris1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/brb_fenris2.jpg

Blah, blah, blah. Anything else? Why not post another "MYTH BUSTING" post alongside this. Its not like you haven't misremembered things before, have you?

You did nothing to prove that was multiversal but post some random statements while I proved it was a single universe by the eternity scan. Then you went your usual "Seriously bro" routine.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are using Odin as benchmark for Loki. I'm using Spectre, Adam one, nearly omniotent Dr. Destiny, Worloggog Joker and such for J'onn. Odin is small potato compared to those guys. J'onn effortlessly punks Loki using high end feats.

Never said that. Thor has knocked out loki with just fists though.

Thor broke Loki's arm with a tap. That isn't a high feat for thor, it shows how weak Loki is. That's just it. You going on a rant won't change it.

Loki hiding from Odin isn't PIS? Look at Odin's average and Loki's and tell that to me with a straight face.

Yeah, misremembered.

Lulz.

Smh. Hypocrisy much?

Yeah, you did. And?

WTF? Thor's hit Loki with Mjolnir and thrown it far harder than he did there multiple times across the decades and it hasn't broken his arm or bones in general. How in the hell you think that single panel overrides dozens upon dozens of instances where Loki has endured far more punishment than a tap from Mjolnir (which clearly wasn't anything close to its normal showings) is trolling or you just not knowing anything substantial about the character Loki. Either way, you've already proved that your opinion on the character isn't really reliable given how "vague" your memory can be.

I have looked at his average. He's the God of Lies/Mischief. He's routinely hidden his plans and schemes from Odin, even when Odin was keeping an eye on him. How can you debate against Loki when you're not even aware about his fundamental characteristics and abilities?

Lol.

"Lulz" doesn't change the fact that you've been proven wrong multiple times again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are using Odin as benchmark for Loki. I'm using Spectre, Adam one, nearly omniotent Dr. Destiny, Worloggog Joker and such for J'onn. Odin is small potato compared to those guys. J'onn effortlessly punks Loki using high end feats.

Never said that. Thor has knocked out loki with just fists though.

Thor broke Loki's arm with a tap. That isn't a high feat for thor, it shows how weak Loki is. That's just it. You going on a rant won't change it.

Loki hiding from Odin isn't PIS? Look at Odin's average and Loki's and tell that to me with a straight face.

Yeah, misremembered.

Lulz.

👆 Spectre isn't MM's only high end TP feat. Don't forget Mageddon as well.