Vril Dox Vs Tony Stark

Started by Blair Wind7 pages
Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman has the longest running sci fi show of all time.

What?

Are you talking about Smallville, with what, ten seasons? Doctor Who's 34 total seasons would disagree with you.

Originally posted by ODG
A few notes:

1. Debatable, considering the armors Stark's built. SKIN Armor, Thorbuster, etc.
2. This sounds like a cool feat. Reference?
3. How come it feels like there's still an air of distrust when people look to associate themselves with him? Honest question.
4. Stark invented the Bleeding Edge armor based on Kid Kang's armor, who was from the 31st century. And he didn't need to reverse engineer it. He just looked at him and thought that was cool enough to invent.
5. Stark's done impressive things with genetics and engineering. He created a genetic disrupter that power drained everybody.

Not sure Vril Dox has matched all of Stark's best feats. Just recently, Stark split apart the raw Phoenixforce.

1. I was considering Thor buster when I made teh statement though not SKIN. Honestly not up on that one.

2. In the recent pre flashpoint series that is how Starro spread his sphere of influence so far so fast. He took control of Silica from Dox and using her control of all Dox's "robotic cop as well as tecnopathically controlling any defense of worlds he sent his spors to was able to take of massive areas of space faster than he ever had before.

3. Honestly because he is. No one who works with Dox trusts him. he always has his own agenda in which he includes no one. he doesn't trust anyone enough to keep them fully in the loop. Instead he always manipulates events so that their own natures make them do what he wants done ( he never trusts anyone enough to just ask). Those closest too him question and have suspicions over his every move because of their experience and yet he still manipulates their actions. He has only personally used his enhanced charisma program once to "save Colu" from itself ( he was talked out of using it again by the Durlan who pointed out that using it made him more like his father - who he hates with a passion). The program however has been used by his father to do much more damage and by his son to completely control a galaxy

Originally posted by beatboks
1. I was considering Thor buster when I made teh statement though not SKIN. Honestly not up on that one.

2. In the recent pre flashpoint series that is how Starro spread his sphere of influence so far so fast. He took control of Silica from Dox and using her control of all Dox's "robotic cop as well as tecnopathically controlling any defense of worlds he sent his spors to was able to take of massive areas of space faster than he ever had before.

3. Honestly because he is. No one who works with Dox trusts him. he always has his own agenda in which he includes no one. he doesn't trust anyone enough to keep them fully in the loop. Instead he always manipulates events so that their own natures make them do what he wants done ( he never trusts anyone enough to just ask). Those closest too him question and have suspicions over his every move because of their experience and yet he still manipulates their actions. He has only personally used his enhanced charisma program once to "save Colu" from itself ( he was talked out of using it again by the Durlan who pointed out that using it made him more like his father - who he hates with a passion). The program however has been used by his father to do much more damage and by his son to completely control a galaxy

1. Thorbuster held up better than Cap's shield against King Thor. I'd definitely be interested in seeing what Vril Dox has designed that trumps them. SKIN Armor was basically his adamantium-lite armor.

2. Based on this synopsis, where Starro begins and where Vril Dox ends concerning that feat is a bit hazy to me.

3. Again, where his father/son begin and where Vril Dox ends concerning that feat is a bit hazy to me.

1. Vril's force field has withstood black and yellow lanterns, point nlank Nuclear blasts and the the attacks of Pulsar Stargrave ( who in LoSH has taken down Superboy, Mon-el and ultra boy). at the very least it's a match.
2. Starro used Silica's capability. Dox still designed and biult the AI that Starro used without making any changes to it.
3. again he subliminal program was created and designed by Vril. his father and son simply used it once they found it. Vril used a modified watered down version regain the loyalty of his troops after he shut down the program that Lyrl had used. IIRC some of his higher operatives also questioned whether he had used it to have so many so fiercely loyal to him so quick after taking over the Cairn police force. he answered the quieries by fiving them full access to his computers. I would say a history of designing IT and subliminal programs thatcan control on a galactic level plays to the character who created them more than the one who may have eventually used them. After the Lyrl thing he set up safe guards to ensure it never happened again. I never got the end of the last run but would assume an in character Vril would have done the same after regaining control of Silica.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
What?

Are you talking about Smallville, with what, ten seasons? Doctor Who's 34 total seasons would disagree with you.

Or Star Trek.

Originally posted by Raisen
I've known this since day 1 when I came on KMC. This guy consistently makes bait/spite threads in favor of DC over Marvel.

How is it spite?

Guys, no backseat modding.

Also, I wouldn't call Smallville a sci-fi show, tbh. It had sci-fi elements, but it's more a fantasy/teen drama than anything else.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, no backseat modding.

Also, I wouldn't call Smallville a sci-fi show, tbh. It had sci-fi elements, but it's more a fantasy/teen drama than anything else.

It was the longest running something. Maybe it was fantssy, but I thought i read sci fi. Never saw the show tbh.

if you mean what it says here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallville_(season_10)

it's just plain wrong.

Longest running embarrassment to the Superman mythos, maybe.

Smallville is like the 4th longest running sci fi series.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, no backseat modding.

Also, I wouldn't call Smallville a sci-fi show, tbh. It had sci-fi elements, but it's more a fantasy/teen drama than anything else.

Do you even know who Superman is, bro?

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you even know who Superman is, bro?

Well of course I do, I...

No, it's all A LIE! I secretly love Wolverine. cry

That's what happens when you move to Canada.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Longest running embarrassment to the Superman mythos, maybe.

👆

I am starting to wonder if Tony and Dox can even be said to be on the same level of manipulation.

At least when comparing Tony to Dox. Dox is FAR more of a bastard then Tony. Tony is at heart a good person who as aims that are in the parameter of a good person that may have to do some bad things. Dox is a hyper intelligent infant in a adult body that was raised by a mad man with ablsolutely no morals. Dox takes things on a far more personal level then does Tony.

I think Dox would be the worst manipulator then Tony

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, no backseat modding.

Also, I wouldn't call Smallville a sci-fi show, tbh. It had sci-fi elements, but it's more a fantasy/teen drama than anything else.

I will admit there were a few episodes that made me a little giddy inside, though they were few and far between. For such a long series, I think I could count them with one hand. Pretty sad actually, but as a superman fan, I watched the whole series.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I am starting to wonder if Tony and Dox can even be said to be on the same level of manipulation.

At least when comparing Tony to Dox. Dox is FAR more of a bastard then Tony. Tony is at heart a good person who as aims that are in the parameter of a good person that may have to do some bad things. Dox is a hyper intelligent infant in a adult body that was raised by a mad man with ablsolutely no morals. Dox takes things on a far more personal level then does Tony.

I think Dox would be the worst manipulator then Tony [/B]


When it comes to manipulation Dox is in a league all his own. I wouldn't say he's infantile so much as he hasn't developed any morals. He may play the 'hero/anti hero but it's only because he despises everything his father represents because of his hatred for him. The total irony is he has absolutely no problem using exactly the same methods as. brainiac so long as the ends are opposite.

Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
I will admit there were a few episodes that made me a little giddy inside, though they were few and far between. For such a long series, I think I could count them with one hand. Pretty sad actually, but as a superman fan, I watched the whole series.

I watched it when it started, and I watched it when It ended, but there's about three seasons in the middle I avoided due to that stupid witches thing.

Thorbuster armor is not canon. Its from an alternate reality.