Who is more powerful, Odin or Mordu?

Started by Damborgson16 pages

Thats....odd.

The Asgard "land-mass" which is slightly bigger than Earth,
is located within a separate space outside the 616 reality.

This separate space used to be a pocket-dimension cosmic scale in size but far smaller than an alternate Eternity,
but as highlighted, Fraction retconned that separate space into a full blown universe. (like an alternate Eternity)

Originally posted by beatboks
Ive already put up the scan of Hector stating he knew what Mordru had done with his power.

Here it is again

That was meant as Mordru had suppressed his power previously.

The Nabu that Mordru fought was not the same one that fought spectre. Nice deception.

How many times are you going to lie?

The last page is where Nabu sensed the crisis and went to fight Spectre.

To have conceeded a point I'd have had ro have stared the opposite i didn't

Wait so that's your evidence? Mordru created a box that was a doorway to other dimensions. He created a neans of BFRing. Nothing in that scan suggests in the slightest he created the dimensions that the box went to.

Haha, what? Mordru created the dimensions and stuffed them in a box. It wasn't a BFR spell.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I didn't read anything but saw some scans of Asgardian dimensions.

The Asgardian Nine Realms were revealed to be separate, fully formed Universes, in Matt Fraction's run. Just a heads up Leo.


I already showed you fraction himself retconned that up.

And then Aaron buried that baby along with your dreams.

That is the size of the Asgard space as the ships were at the fringes of Asgard space and that's the size of Asgard island.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol thanks man. i posted that scan. he countered with a bio that said asgard was just a small planet. of course the same scan also confirmed asgard was also a dimension so.....? 😕

the only other thing i meant to post before i realized it was pointless to continue were picks of "asgard space". i came across a several--one was even captioned as ASGARD SPACE. but yeah, asgard wasn't a full universe. i think celey posted scans showing heven was also more than just a city. lol but you can imagine how well that worked out. at least he now admits that infinity was pulled out of odin by hela. that is something at least. shrug

he did show a scan that got me curious though--it was an angela scan that suggested FREYA not odin, separated heven from asgard. ever seen that?


Uh, this is a bio?

ermm

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Asgard "land-mass" which is slightly bigger than Earth,
is located within a separate space outside the 616 reality.

This separate space used to be a pocket-dimension cosmic scale in size but far smaller than an alternate Eternity,
but as highlighted, Fraction retconned that separate space into a full blown universe. (like an alternate Eternity)

Originally posted by abhilegend
I already showed you fraction himself retconned that up.

And then Aaron buried that baby along with your dreams.

That is the size of the Asgard space as the ships were at the fringes of Asgard space and that's the size of Asgard island.


Fraction himself and Aaron re-retconned it if you want to say it.

Either you can't read or you posted the wrong scan for the first one. P.S. Literally a few pages later:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XgV81RAR46A/VntlG7csfhI/AAAAAAAAmZg/r4A7Uta7AnY/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

Edit: I'm not going to argue with you, since we all know you can't read. Leo, don't even waste your time. Here is the link to the comic so everyone can read it:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-617?id=8399

And this is the issue the arc starts:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-615?id=8395

What pisses me off is that you are flat out lying. The Dark God Skyfather literally held at bay Entropy to prevent his Universe collapsing, cementing the retcon.

It was such an underlying plot point, it was literally the main focus of the entire run. I feel confident, we should let Galan, Pr and Bada read the arc and ban whichever one of us is wrong. A perma-ban.

What do you say? 🙂 It would have to unanimous. All 3 would have to agree. But I know you know you're flat out trolling. Someone has got to put a stop to this page waste.

For the second set, why are you confusing the Asgardian city of the Old Gods, and the Asgardian Dimension?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Either you can't read or you posted the wrong scan for the first one. P.S. Literally a few pages later:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XgV81RAR46A/VntlG7csfhI/AAAAAAAAmZg/r4A7Uta7AnY/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

What about that scan? Yes, "universes" was used but that is interchangable with pocket realms.

Edit: I'm not going to argue with you, since we all know you can't read. Leo, don't even waste your time. Here is the link to the comic so everyone can read it:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-617?id=8399

And this is the issue the arc starts:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-615?id=8395

I've read it all. Thanks for the help for Leo though.

What pisses me off is that you are flat out lying. The Dark God Skyfather literally held at bay Entropy to prevent his Universe collapsing, cementing the retcon.

Yes, pocket universe since otherworld was needed for Surtur to connect nine realms with the rest of the multiverse.

If these "universes" were outside 616 universe, they wouldn't need a nexus to connect with the multiverse.

It was such an underlying plot point, it was literally the main focus of the entire run. I feel confident, we should let Galan, Pr and Bada read the arc and ban whichever one of us is wrong. A perma-ban.

How about a BZ? Let us all see how big the asgardian dimension is? Why stop at a single arc?

What do you say? 🙂 It would have to unanimous. All 3 would have to agree. But I know you know you're flat out trolling. Someone has got to put a stop to this page waste.

😂

Thorbags got to be the densest posters I've ever met.

For the second set, why are you confusing the Asgardian city of the Old Gods, and the Asgardian Dimension?

Because both are interchangable.

I'm even exploding the scan so you can read.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]That was meant as Mordru had suppressed his power previously.


That is what i'm trying to say.
Anyway,there is my scanshttps://i.imgur.com/ZXowTVC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jVEPIsc.jpgMy interpretation is😖ince mordru he was inhabiting within arion's body,and he is actually pure energy,so when fate said mordru inhibitation within his amulet couldn't meaning mordru still in his amulet.Because if so,fate need toss his entire amulet to rock of eternity to imprison mordru.And fate now could fully channeling it's helm and heard nabu's voiceAnd we related to previous issue.mordru uses his weakness(obsession for his wife death)to freed him,Also restrained hector untill in this story arc hector finally overcome this weaknesshttps://i.imgur.com/cVuMmOg.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/DNNwzyF.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NyWnHW6.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ioXWEnU.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xLfSCSn.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/GpWA2Si.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/aZBfMaB.jpgSo i don't think mordru was been amped since no solid evidences showed it.And mordru actually was faced a more powerful version JSA than the first issues

2Hector's words didn't counter mordru,like i said this sentence was related to it's previous issue:mordru uses his mental weakness weakened hector,and freed him.And from your scan later few pages,states mordru is energy constantly inhabitanting one host to another host,and now he is inhabiting arion's body.So he didn't inhabiting fate's vestments which mean he didn't have it's power

Though i don't know why I understand what people say/write,But people don't understand my writing.......Maybe I really have some writing problems

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Either you can't read or you posted the wrong scan for the first one. P.S. Literally a few pages later:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XgV81RAR46A/VntlG7csfhI/AAAAAAAAmZg/r4A7Uta7AnY/s1600-Ic42/RCO010.jpg

Edit: I'm not going to argue with you, since we all know you can't read. Leo, don't even waste your time. Here is the link to the comic so everyone can read it:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-617?id=8399

And this is the issue the arc starts:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Thor-2007/Issue-615?id=8395

What pisses me off is that you are flat out lying. The Dark God Skyfather literally held at bay Entropy to prevent his Universe collapsing, cementing the retcon.

It was such an underlying plot point, it was literally the main focus of the entire run. I feel confident, we should let Galan, Pr and Bada read the arc and ban whichever one of us is wrong. A perma-ban.

What do you say? 🙂 It would have to unanimous. All 3 would have to agree. But I know you know you're flat out trolling. Someone has got to put a stop to this page waste.

For the second set, why are you confusing the Asgardian city of the Old Gods, and the Asgardian Dimension?

no more wasting my time with this, so no worries. i know the evidence is all over the place but that it wouldn't matter. good luck in your challenge, though i think the mods might be looking at this thread already. /shrug

😂

So rage, BZ me on the size of Asgard's dimension. Should be easy, eh?

Either you, Leo or Celey game for it?

Originally posted by abhilegend
As per Thor and Loki Tenth Realm it was only sealed. Angela Asgard's assassin retconned it as Odin banishing city of heven itself to another dimension and then heven returned to its proper dimension when Thor and Loki broke the seal.

So many lies. Heven was banished to another dimension and from there it returned to main universe.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q_gwS3t6wzY/VIO1uP_nwiI/AAAAAAAGTuw/zWFxK6ycT9I/s1600/p4_1%2Bcopy.jpg

Read the very first page of Angela Asgard's assassin.

It's like you don't even read your own scans.

"Odin unleashed a vicious wind that swept us to the ragged edge of the universe, to the endworlds, even there we found life".

That scan also shows the size of heven as a floating city.

😂

You can't read shit, it's proven by now.

Isn't that what you and Leo are talking about?


K I'm not sure what ure saying anymore. Ure kinda all over the place now. What are u saying exactly?

Are u saying that the realms are not fully formed universes? No one is saying it 616 in level, but pretty much complete as far being its own dimension. Which still makes it incredibly large in comparison to just land mass.
It was explained in Fraction's run(modern take)...
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2w7k09z.jpg
And then further touched upon by Aaron.
https://postimg.cc/JsR25HkJ

Or are u agreeing that the realms are fully functioning universes, but only Heven proper was transported away and placed in another dimension?
If that's the case, it's still a massive feat and beyond your terms of "galactic" since the Angels were free to move about and travel to different celestial bodies in that dimension/void... Which means the whole dimension or mini universe or what have you was sealed off since they still could not reach other dimensions/universes. Add to that they were literally wiped off from memory. As in basically no one from the other 9 realms knew of their existence save from the Watcher and maybe other powerful beings. It's a massive showing of power no matter how u look at it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention Angela: Queen of Hel 1 further retconned it and now it was Freyja who sundered Heven from World Tree.

https://i.postimg.cc/26jzzLv0/image.jpg

😂

Thor's history is a mess.


facepalm
I think you pull out scans without having proper context because you don't read the full story.
This scan is a flashback from the final issue of Angela Asgard's Assassin. When Freyja "sundered Heven from the World Tree", it's referencing the Angel's further being removed from normal connection to Yggdrasil. Freyja set a curse on them when she literally hacked off pieces of the World Tree to complete the process. The Angels now become the lowest of Hel and suffer greatly once they pass on. They now don't even have their own normal fate. It even references Odin removing Heven from Yggdrasil. There was no retcon here. Smh...

nice. 👆

thanks for clearing that up. i didn't know WHAT that scan was referencing, but i knew enough not to trust whatever interpretation abhi assigned it. never read all of asgard's assassin. thought it sucked, but like i said, i did enjoy the queen of hel take on angela.

obviously, no retcon. not really even any confusion now that we know the full context. thanks.

Who gives a shit if it's a pocket dimension or universe. Mordru's high end feats/spells are superior. And Tynion is going to give mordru a massive boost when he battles the otherkind.

😂

ok. 👆

👆 nice of you to agree, sporto.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yes, "universes" was used but that is interchangable with pocket realms.

False. In Marvel comics, a "pocket" reality is NEVER referred to as just a universe.

It is always labeled a "pocket" universe/dimension for clarification.

Originally posted by abhilegend

If these "universes" were outside 616 universe, they wouldn't need a nexus to connect with the multiverse.

Actually, the very fact that they needed a "nexus," is the proof the universes were outside 616.

uhh, that's what a Marvel "nexus" is: an access point to other realities outside your own.

Originally posted by abhilegend

How about a BZ?

Let us all see how big the asgardian dimension is?

Why stop at a single arc?


Rage, this is my game, I'll take this if you don't mine..

I already have bout 30 scans in wait, since I've owned others in this subject.

😂

mrm stepping in?? NOW i'm excited. nwoot

Carver has been ghost.

MM has been around lately.

Coincidence..?
mhmm