Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Who is this raisen that you've shifted towards now? From the sounds of it, another abhirapist, it seems.You very clearly are.
Nobody is theorycrafting anything here. Nobody except for all those phantoms in your head. I don't see why I need to post the scans when leonidas and vince_slice have already done so.
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI already told you the proof. Galactus got sent flying by an attack that was much weaker than others he's had to deal with. Same way Odin got knocked down by an attack that was much weaker than other's he had to deal with. Res ipsa loquitur. The thing speaks for itself.
1. You still offered ZERO proof it was a cheapshot. I asked for proof not your speculation. You're also forgetting that the evidence sides with it NOT being a cheap shot.. He was looking DIREcTLY at him and has cosmic awareness. Thanos words also seemed to imply he was getting ready to attack. All this points to it NOT being a cheap shot. If you have PROOF it was POST It and stop wasting everybody's time. If not, concede you're doing nothing bu speculating. It's very easy to destroy your real world exmaples as well. In a boxing match or MMA... they are in there and KNOW they are going to be hit and the person is trying to hit them... YET THEY STILL GET HIT. So even when you know something is coming doesn't mean you can get out of the way or can avoid being hit.. Doesn't make it a cheapshot or that they were unaware they would be attacked.. they were aware and still got attacked. Damn that was easy
Good job ignoring the real world examples by analogizing to a boxing match. Because the better analogy would be a 90 lb. weakling (Thanos/Thor) being told to gtfo or stfu by a 250 lb. heavyweight fighter, with a lead pipe in their hand and a gun (Galactus/Odin). Then that 90 lb. weakling kicks their knee and makes them stumble even though it's complete suicide to do so.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiTarakis poisoning Odin has no bearing on Odin's power level. Doom prepped for a few hours and "made Beyonder his b1tch WITH EASE." That has no bearing on Beyonder's power level relative to Mephisto, who Doom's been prepping for and defeated by for years and years on end. I'll say it again, your attempts to denigrate the character are just petty and trite. And having them deconstructed isn't an invitation for you to repeat a busted line of terrible reasoning.
2. Actually it very much matters... A weaker clone with Minimal prep made Odin his b1tch WTIH EASE. The real deal Thanos.. prepped for issue after issue trying to find a weakness in Tyrant and even got an amp to fight Tyrant and couldn't do a thing to him. You think that shows nothing? WTFFFF LOL. That shows a lot.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiIt is PIS. That's what PIS is. Plot Induced Stupidity. A few corrections: DP Tyrant was the one who said he should flee first and gave up a host of heralds to secure his retreat. Only FP Tyrant's original fight with Galactus threatened galaxies. Your intentional misrepresentations are easily corrected. And the very fact that nobody ever mentioned that DP Tyrant could absorb his blasts until it just suddenly happens out of left field makes it the very definition of PIS. DP Tyrant never soaked in Surfer's blasts, or anybody else's. Hell, he didn't even absorb the blasts from his own orbs with stolen energy. Until it just happened for the sake of plot that made Galactus look stupid. Ergo, Plot Induced Stupidity.
3. You act like the PIS you claim to be so matters... I explained in great detail how that DOESN'T matter nor does the case rest on what you call PIS. The case rest on what Galatus thoguht about Odin compared to tyrant...
A. Galactus was VERY concerned about fighting Tyrant.. he told anybody that would listen that it was going to be a tought fight. In fact, he literally backed down the first time he encountered him again and let him keep his herald. He mentions fearing a battle because GALAXIES would be destroyed as a side effect. Surfer.. who knows galactus and tyrant and felt tyrants power... rushes to the fight because he fears "they would both destroy eachother". Galactus made Tyrant in his image to be his equal. That's right to be the equal of somebody GREATER than Odin. You see all of the above shows how Tyrant is to be considered and how big of a threat he was. There was NO not a lick of a mention of.. ooohhhh Tyrant can absorb my blasts so it's going to be a tough fight. NOTHIGN like that. Not a word. All of the things I posted prove and show what level the writer wanted Tyrant at and where Galactus considered tyrant to be at as a threat. All of that had NOTHING to do with the fight and all to do with where Tyrant power level was.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiGalactus acted totally different when he fought the Galactus Engine also. Guess since Galactus backed away from Odin-empowered Destroyer armor but not the Galactus Engine, that means something. Or it means absolutely nothing at all. How about you stop prevaricating over meaningless tensions between characters and focus on the feats? Oh. That's right. The plethora of feats that Odin has over DP Tyrant hurts your butt and makes your laughable attempt to obscure that... laughable.
B. In stark contrast to that... Galactus NEVER was concerned about facing Odin. He expressed ZERO reservations about facing Odin. Shit he didn't even feed on a planet near as rich as he did before facing Tyrant. Surfer didn't express concern like he did when Galactus was going to fight Tyrant. And yet, not even knowing odin well at all.. pretty easily beat him, even when not as powerful. So as you can see it very much matters how they were building up tyrant and what galactus thought about tyrant and odin's power level. he acted totally different when facing them and still got owned by one and owned the other with ease.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiGalactus beat FP Tyrant. DP Tyrant wasn't even hurting Galactus except when he absorbed his power completely, ala Doom. There's your proof that DP Tyrant =/= Galactus, schmuck. Oh, and Galactus can easily one-shot Surfer whereas DP Tyrant took several shots to defeat a weakened Surfer.
Please prove that he wasn't his equal or meant to be his equal. YOu have proof of this right? I have canon narration stating Tyrant was created to be his qual and made in his image. Just because Galactus defeated hiim doesn't mean he wasn't his equal. Matt Sierra beat GSP.. doesn't mean he's better or more powerful but shit happens sometimes. The giants weren't suppose to beat NE.. but they did. Galactus beating Tyrant the first time doesn't mean it voids canon narration stated they were wquals and Galactus created him in his own image. It means galactus won a fight a fight that took thousands of years to resolve anyways which further proves how tough it was and how close in power they were. So if Galactus is greater than Odin.. but a fair margin.. then how is somebody created to be galactus equal and in his image and somebody who is 1 n 1 vs. Galactus not greater than Odin himself? Seems pretty obvious he should be by default.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHorrificus and I went through this in another thread. Your dumbass didn't even know Mangog once defeated Odin and you repeatedly accused Horrificus of lying about it. Until you were shown the scans and shut up. Then you kept talking about lesser incarnations despite the original spell having been undone by Odin. Of course, Magus ordered his Thanos doppelganger around too (the one that the real Thanos barely managed to defeat). Magus that was defeated straight up by Doom. I'm sure you'd love to keep up this line of thought.
you can report me all you want... if you have proof that mangog for SA is a totally different character than other later mangog's post the proof it's an all new character. If not, then it's just writers writing them differently. nothing more. The point still stands though... a weaker clone was ordering around somebody that made odin his b1tch. Whether he was a little less powerful is irrelevant. Thanos was also weaker.. mangog might have been weaker to.. but regardless he was taki orders from Thanos. Mangog got uppity... and Thanos told him to shut his mouth and know his role.. Mangog goes ok my bad. That is ordering somebody around like a dog.. a character that in the past has made him his *****.I love when you resort to the fallacy of appealing to the audience. Problem is, more people have agreed with me than you. I laid out the facts and many people said.. excelletn post and logical post. More than did your posts. So why appeal to the audience when they have said you're wrong?
I wasn't referring to an audience. I was referring to the other posters who were actively debating the same points I am debating. Their pointed arguments and deconstructions don't just banish themselves from the discussion because they render your repeated trolling impotent. Why do I have to repeat what they just said? You go ahead and take zopzop's cheerleading though as a sign that you're on solid ground.
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Originally posted by Galan007Yea, this is right. Galan007 sees it. 👆
Why did you post so much?I'm right, you're wrong. Deal with it. 👆
We know your act, KuRuPT Thanosi. You'll post walls o' text of CAPS-ridden inanity and repeat yourself ad nauseam to just deflect from the simple truth. Even when you're shut down completely on certain points, you'll do one of two things: brag that you weren't just totally deconstructed or just never mention it again (despite acting like everything you said still holds true). You'll rely on a number of logical fallacies and start making demands on increasingly irrelevant points to further muddy the conversation. Then you'll even throw out a few outright misrepresentations in the hopes that we will waste our time indignantly correcting you rather than bearing down on the simple truth.
In the end, you just hope to exhaust us with clumsy bluster, increasingly superficial tangents, and the stubbornness of a retarded child trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.
You might start off discussing issues constructively, even reasonably, but after about three or four posts, you end up going full KuRuPTard.
Here, the discussion is simple. Odin's feats >>>> DP Tyrant's. And Odin looks even better when you bear down on certain undeniable facts like Thanos never budged him (unlike DP Tyrant), and Surfer got one-shotted by him (unlike a weakened Surfer against DP Tyrant). And Surtur w/ Twilight is more than a match for Odin. Therefore, he defeats DP Tyrant who can't make use of his plot device biospheric energy absorption powers or technopathy here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's raisen level gecko.I'm not flip-flopping at all. My position from the start is that both of those comments are worthless.
You are clearly theorycrafting here. Post the scan where surfer says he let panther armbar him otherwise. Mcduffie or Brevoort's comments mean nothing.
Ahbi, I don't address you much at all, I don't debate with you, and I don't know who you are. Yet, somehow you feel the need to reference me as if you're somehow a notch above me in KMC users' eyes. I may be the joke of the week, but you and everyone else on KMC knows that you are the longest running joke on this site; synonymous with: Sh!t poster, Superman fanboy, and desperate virgin. I expect this to be the last time you use my name.
Keep my name out of your mouth and I'll keep my D!ck out of yours.
Originally posted by Raisen
Ahbi, I don't address you much at all, I don't debate with you, and I don't know who you are. Yet, somehow you feel the need to reference me as if you're somehow a notch above me in KMC users' eyes. I may be the joke of the week, but you and everyone else on KMC knows that you are the longest running joke on this site; synonymous with: Sh!t poster, Superman fanboy, and desperate virgin. I expect this to be the last time you use my name.Keep my name out of your mouth and I'll keep my D!ck out of yours.
Originally posted by Raisen
Ahbi, I don't address you much at all, I don't debate with you, and I don't know who you are. Yet, somehow you feel the need to reference me as if you're somehow a notch above me in KMC users' eyes. I may be the joke of the week, but you and everyone else on KMC knows that you are the longest running joke on this site; synonymous with: Sh!t poster, Superman fanboy, and desperate virgin. I expect this to be the last time you use my name.Keep my name out of your mouth and I'll keep my D!ck out of yours.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I miss chomper.He once made a thread detailing a dream or something about Punisher having sex with his sister when she was drunk.
KMC needs threads like this.
We need to bring back shokosugi. Now that's someone who deserves a thread-maker of the year award.
I swear, that guy almost appears to be the master that Colossus-Big C never had in the art of thread-making.