Originally posted by Robtard
His new angle is that George Lucas' words don't matter anymore, despite previously trying to use a lie that George Lucas said the 2008 film wasn't canon somewhere.This is on top of citing wookieepedia, which says George Lucas' statements are canon.
Well, the quote I posted had GL lumping his movies, the Clone Wars Movies, and his TV Show into the same category. That should have been the end of it, imo.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
im just glad you're learning stuff about star wars, ddm. soon you'll be all set for ep7. did you see ESB yet? 🙂
The only thing I learned about Star Wars was how strong Anakin truly was due to that speeder grab in Ep II.
The other stuff I learned was all from Into Darkness...because I saw the movie once. 😐
Originally posted by focus4chumps
its not about strength with jedi. yoda could have pulled that off and easier. judge him by his size do you?
Well, the scene showing him grab the speeder does not show the speeder slowing down or anything like that. He just goes naught to 200 in fractions of a second right when he grabs it. That would rip out any human's arm or at least cause them to lose their grip. I don't see how the force helped keep his arm attached.
That's similar to Blade grabbing onto the subway train while it was in motion and getting snatched along with it with no problems.
And in the books, the Force can be used for more esoteric stuff like that. But I suppose we can look at it in the way that if the Jedi can use the Force to boost their speed and jumping abilities, they could use it to boost a temporary increase in strength or durability.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's similar to Blade grabbing onto the subway train while it was in motion and getting snatched along with it with no problems.And in the books, the Force can be used for more esoteric stuff like that. But I suppose we can look at it in the way that if the Jedi can use the Force to boost their speed and jumping abilities, they could use it to boost a temporary increase in strength or durability.
iirc Blade's shoulder did get dislocated, though still a very high durability feat. I personally don't see a Jedi doing the same without employing the Force and trying to rely solely on the strength/limits of their body.
Stands to reason telekenesis could be applied to make your body more durable with precise control, besides cushion falls and such.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's similar to Blade grabbing onto the subway train while it was in motion and getting snatched along with it with no problems.
Blade is a legit superhuman, though.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
best example would be luke flying out of the carbonite chamber at mach speed in esb.
It wasn't mach speeds or anywhere near that speed. But I assume you're using hyperbole to make that point...
Just eyeballing, I'd guess closer to 40 mph.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
it could be that anakin used the force to push himself in the same direction as the speeder when he grabbed onto it.
That's true but that makes Anakin far less superhuman...and...well, we could arbitrarily say he is perfectly human in strength, at this point.
But then one could say he can augment his strength, mid-combat, with the force.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
controls falls. handless luke maneuvering into the vent tube after his rage quit on bespin
I always assumed that vent had some awesome suction going on rather than Luke adjusting himself, mid-flight.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It wasn't mach speeds or anywhere near that speed. But I assume you're using hyperbole to make that point...Just eyeballing, I'd guess closer to 40 mph.
im glad you invested all that time on my point without acknowledging it, just so you can be factually incorrect about physical strength being the catalyst for their acrobatics. its cute 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, the scene showing him grab the speeder does not show the speeder slowing down or anything like that. He just goes naught to 200 in fractions of a second right when he grabs it. That would rip out any human's arm or at least cause them to lose their grip. I don't see how the force helped keep his arm attached.
Tell that to black widow in avengers.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
im glad you invested all that time on my point without acknowledging it, just so you can be factually incorrect about physical strength being the catalyst for their acrobatics. its cute 🙂
You said it was mach speed when he flew out of the carbonite chamber: it wasn't. You said it was a "best example" without quotting anyone and everyone was talking about the gripping stuff. You then used that point to indicate how Anakin could have used the force to blast himself forward explaining away the strength requirements in the scene. So, please, tell me, how did I not acknowledge your factually incorrect point regarding Luke jumping out of the Carbonite chamber at "mach speed"?
And there is nothing about what I stated that said or implied that their strength is the catalyst for their acrobatics. Remember, now, we are talking about Anakin grabbing a speeder, not jumping out of one. 🙂
Originally posted by Odekahn
Tell that to black widow in avengers.
She's gotta be superhuman. Remember, she's fighting alongside teh avengers! WEEE!
Originally posted by dadudemon
You said it was mach speed when he flew out of the carbonite chamber: it wasn't. You said it was a "best example" without quotting anyone and everyone was talking about the gripping stuff. You then used that point to indicate how Anakin could have used the force to blast himself forward explaining away the strength requirements in the scene. So, please, tell me, how did I not acknowledge your factually incorrect point regarding Luke jumping out of the Carbonite chamber at "mach speed"?And there is nothing about what I stated that said or implied that their strength is the catalyst for their acrobatics. Remember, now, we are talking about Anakin grabbing a speeder, not jumping out of one. 🙂
She's gotta be superhuman. Remember, she's fighting alongside teh avengers! WEEE!
She's not. She's a regular human with no enhancements.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You said it was mach speed when he flew out of the carbonite chamber: it wasn't. You said it was a "best example" without quotting anyone and everyone was talking about the gripping stuff. You then used that point to indicate how Anakin could have used the force to blast himself forward explaining away the strength requirements in the scene. So, please, tell me, how did I not acknowledge your factually incorrect point regarding Luke jumping out of the Carbonite chamber at "mach speed"?And there is nothing about what I stated that said or implied that their strength is the catalyst for their acrobatics. Remember, now, we are talking about Anakin grabbing a speeder, not jumping out of one. 🙂
i consider it the best example because its a direct contradiction of gravity, as opposed to just jumping down a long way and not breaking his legs. have a ball dancing around this. you're allowed to here. :'😉
Originally posted by Odekahn
She's not. She's a regular human with no enhancements.
Somewhere, in this world, a whooshing sound can be heard.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
i consider it the best example because its a direct contradiction of gravity, as opposed to just jumping down a long way and not breaking his legs. have a ball dancing around this. you're allowed to here. :'😉
Originally posted by dadudemon
Remember, now, we are talking about Anakin grabbing a speeder, not jumping out of one. 🙂
Everybody! EVERYONE! Pay attention! focus4chumps is now George Lucas. He invented a new force power. He calls it "force speeder grab." Many Padawans died while using this power to bate.