Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Uhmm is it only me who feels this scans of superman getting this much discomfort from a small phasing attack to his foot supports blue's argument more?
Originally posted by Sixth_Wingedactually yeah, that doenst look good for him, but it changes nothing here. she'd never get the opportunity to phase his vital organs in.
Uhmm is it only me who feels this scans of superman getting this much discomfort from a small phasing attack to his foot supports blue's argument more?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. People (read blue) are acting that any phasing would disable superman. I've also has the scan of someone directly phasing his hand through superman's body and he shrugged it off.
Shadowcat's more lethal attack isn't her phasing thru ppl (heck it's harmless unless you're technological), but it's her phasing you thru objects and re-solidifying while you're still in it.
The proper argument would be just to simply state that there is absolutely no way for her to even touch Superman or get him near enough a solid object to phase thru/solidify. Unless he fights really really really really really really really really really really really really really x100 stupid.
Originally posted by NibedicusI made that argument, yay!
Shadowcat's more lethal attack isn't her phasing thru ppl (heck it's harmless unless you're technological), but it's her phasing you thru objects and re-solidifying while you're still in it.The proper argument would be just to simply state that there is absolutely no way for her to even touch Superman or get him near enough a solid object to phase thru/solidify. Unless he fights really really really really really really really really really really really really really x100 stupid.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Shadowcat's more lethal attack isn't her phasing thru ppl (heck it's harmless unless you're technological), but it's her phasing you thru objects and re-solidifying while you're still in it.The proper argument would be just to simply state that there is absolutely no way for her to even touch Superman or get him near enough a solid object to phase thru/solidify. Unless he fights really really really really really really really really really really really really really x100 stupid.
And doesn't she need to solidify, at least partially, to grab someone and phase them?
Meaning she'd be vulnerable?
Stalemate may be the best she could do.. But then, they wouldn't be fighting..
Don't worry about blue. I'm sure if you pit supes against any female hero, he'd argue that supes loses. Hell, I'm sure he'd take just about any hero over supes. To people wondering where people get the whole "superman haters everywhere!!!!1" mentality, look no further than this thread. I'm not saying that mentality is justified, but it is at least more understandable in the context of this kind of thing. Would anybody really argue that kitty can beat hulk, thor, surfer, etc. for the majority? Didn't think so.
Originally posted by Zack FairWhat part of him being not able to do anything to her did you miss? freeze breath, heat vision, punching and vibrating are useless against her. So what if he hears her heartbeat, it will do him no good assuming he can even hear it in her phasing state. You have no proof whatsoever that he can hear hers in her attacking state... You assume much, yet prove nothing. You are beginning to remind me of abhi. Dont do that please.
What part of "hearing" did you miss?
Originally posted by JBLNever saw anything about that in the post I quoted, so blah blah blah.
What part of him being not able to do anything to her did you miss? freeze breath, heat vision, punching and vibrating are useless against her. So what if he hears her heartbeat, it will do him no good assuming he can even hear it in her phasing state. You have no proof whatsoever that he can hear hers in her attacking state... You assume much, yet prove nothing. You are beginning to remind me of abhi. Dont do that please.
So what are Thor's chances against kitty? While you are at it what are Hulk's and Gladiator's?
So I am beginning to sound like Abhi simply because I disagree with this ridiculous notion that Kitty even has a chance?
You are the one blinded by hate. Kitty has no chance against Superman. None. Finito. Nothing. The only way she wins if he just stands there and lets her do her thing. And hilariously enough pre-flashpoint Superman has survived and fought on without his heart. Removing organs is not a clear win unless she somehow gets to remove his brain. Pre-Flashpoint Superman has also heard white martian's heartbeats when they tried to ambush him using invisibility during the Martian Invasion arc in Morrison's JLA run.
Can you provide evidence of Kitty being 100% silent when she is in her phasing state? Because I believe I should not have to post showings of Superman's super hearing.