Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by DARTH POWER201 pages

Still just the one vote for Khan I see.

Seriously Quanchi112 when you can't convince even 1 other person of Khan's superiority over a 3 month period, it's time to give up.

oh god this crap again? grow up.

Pebbleonthebeachpost, Yoda wins.

Khan receives a small, wrinkled, green D*%k up the a$$ for thinking he could take Yoda.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Khan receives a small, wrinkled, green D*%k up the a$$ for thinking he could take Yoda.

After 900 years, Yoda can still get it up?! Haha, yeah. Khan's f**ked (pun intended).

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Still just the one vote for Khan I see.

Seriously Quanchi112 when you can't convince even 1 other person of Khan's superiority over a 3 month period, it's time to give up.

I just voted so I changed someone's mind all those months ago. Are you ever right ?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Yoda caught lightning with his hand and his lighsaber blocked shots meant to kill, I don't think a little stun gun is gonna do much. He could also just force the gun away.
Palpatine never killed anyone with his blasts. Get real. Luke survived continued exposure under Palpatine's.

If you think he is bringing a stun gun you obviously haven't see the movie which explains everything.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
How do you know the stun blasts are equal to a force push by Yoda that he would be able to shrug them off? You're the one making things up with no basis on this point. Khan's also not fought someone as agile as Yoda, what basis do you have that he'll be able to adjust to fighting someone less than half his size moving a speeds faster than he's ever come across?

You've never specified what weaponry he has on him, either. The guns he had against the Klingon can't be considered part of his basic equipment. We never see him wield anything like them again in the movie.

Because I have common sense. We see the force pushing and the only time it ko's is when it tossed someone into something. Stun blasts ko far more effectively. He tanked off 8 shots.

Khan's accuracy and weaponry is far greater than any clone who have shown the accuracy to shoot at Yoda to which he has to block it.

Khan has the weaponry he had with him against the Klingons. He so taken prisoner so why would he have any of his guns after that ? Seriously.

That doesn't sound like standard equipment.

Was that gun allowed in the OP?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because I have common sense. We see the force pushing and the only time it ko's is when it tossed someone into something. Stun blasts ko far more effectively. He tanked off 8 shots.

Khan's accuracy and weaponry is far greater than any clone who have shown the accuracy to shoot at Yoda to which he has to block it.

Khan has the weaponry he had with him against the Klingons. He so taken prisoner so why would he have any of his guns after that ? Seriously.

Common sense is not evidence backed by showings, which makes you just as guilty as I on the stance of making things up. The Force has knocked characters unconscious when used to slam them against a surface, but it has also sent various characters of varying size and weight either staggering or outright flying. The stun blasts never demonstrated that level of force, and Khan's never been shown resisting it, either.

The clones get their genetic material from Jango Fett, one of the most notorious bounty hunters of his time. He wouldn't have gotten a reputation if he couldn't place a shot, and at the time of the Clone Wars, his DNA was being strained pure to the clones. They're not all snipers (though some of them were), but they're not inept in accuracy either. It would make them useless as a fighting force were that the case.

This is the first that Khan even having a weapon has been mentioned, though I'll admit it'd be odd to put him unarmed against Yoda with his lightsaber. The guns he had against the Klingons are massive, and despite his ability to wield them with some ease, It's seems rather unlikely that he would be able to accurately target something as small and agile as Yoda.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That doesn't sound like standard equipment.

Was that gun allowed in the OP?

That is his own equipment. If you are so sure Yoda wins why the big stink ?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Common sense is not evidence backed by showings, which makes you just as guilty as I on the stance of making things up. The Force has knocked characters unconscious when used to slam them against a surface, but it has also sent various characters of varying size and weight either staggering or outright flying. The stun blasts never demonstrated that level of force, and Khan's never been shown resisting it, either.

The clones get their genetic material from Jango Fett, one of the most notorious bounty hunters of his time. He wouldn't have gotten a reputation if he couldn't place a shot, and at the time of the Clone Wars, his DNA was being strained pure to the clones. They're not all snipers (though some of them were), but they're not inept in accuracy either. It would make them useless as a fighting force were that the case.

This is the first that Khan even having a weapon has been mentioned, though I'll admit it'd be odd to put him unarmed against Yoda with his lightsaber. The guns he had against the Klingons are massive, and despite his ability to wield them with some ease, It's seems rather unlikely that he would be able to accurately target something as small and agile as Yoda.

Yes, when he slams him into something not based off the force push alone. Usually only koing when they are caught off guard. Thats it.

Khan resisted 8 shots. It kos people quite effectively. Watch the movie for crying out loud. Force needs the environment and the victim off guard to ko whereas the gun just needs its own blasts.

Watch the fight scene where he mows down multiple enemies, ships, etc. with relative ease. Like he can't pinpoint Yoda. Get real. The clones sure could. This is based off evidence and lesser skilled characters can fire effectively at Yoda.

Dooku was in the middle of fighting Obi-Wan and Anakin when he force tossed Obi-Wan clear across a huge room, ko'ing him in the process. That right there is proof it doesn't need to be by surprise. And Jedi are pretty damn durable considering the physical punishment they take.

Originally posted by KingD19
Dooku was in the middle of fighting Obi-Wan and Anakin when he force tossed Obi-Wan clear across a huge room, ko'ing him in the process. That right there is proof it doesn't need to be by surprise. And Jedi are pretty damn durable considering the physical punishment they take.
The force push was by surprise and it was into something in the environment. Stun blasts ko with a blast which has nothing to do with the environment.

Jedi are pansies. Order 66 wiped them off the map.

Showing that clones are far more competent than you give then credit for. Do you have proof that a larger shot would be too much for yoda?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Showing that clones are far more competent than you give then credit for. Do you have proof that a larger shot would be too much for yoda?
It just shows Yoda is easy to shoot at by skilled opponents.

Energy blast is too wide for him to block. 🙂

It was by surprise?

They were in the middle of a fight between 3 Force Users. Using the Force is not a surprise.

Originally posted by KingD19
It was by surprise?

They were in the middle of a fight between 3 Force Users. Using the Force is not a surprise.

Any force push attack has to catch them off guard to be effective. Why did Darth Maul beat Obi with a force push.....because he caught him off guard. The point.

How would you defend against a force push? The only time I can remember is in the obi vs anni fight, and they both went flying. How does a non force user defend?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
How would you defend against a force push? The only time I can remember is in the obi vs anni fight, and they both went flying. How does a non force user defend?
They shoot him or after they recover shoot him. Force pushing isn't used in the manner the Yoda fans believe it is in the Star Wars movies.