So you create a poll, where 95% of those voting on it are wrong, solely because youre in the other 5%? Man, you just dont change do you Q?
Heck, Id say ROTS Anakin and Obi Wan would trounce Khan, and Yoda would beat either of them solidly as well. Khan isnt close to the same level Yoda is, you may believe otherwise, but youre in the VAST Minority there, that is Fact.
Originally posted by DTMWatch the Star Wars movies again. You just don't get it. The Jedi and Sith are the elite there but the clones are a match for most if not of all the elite. Take into consideration that Khan blows Jango out of the water and this is an easy decision to make.
So you create a poll, where 95% of those voting on it are wrong, solely because youre in the other 5%? Man, you just dont change do you Q?Heck, Id say ROTS Anakin and Obi Wan would trounce Khan, and Yoda would beat either of them solidly as well. Khan isnt close to the same level Yoda is, you may believe otherwise, but youre in the VAST Minority there, that is Fact.
Clones are a match for Elite Jedi/Sith? Really?? And Khan blows Jango Fett out of the water? I say again, Really?? 🙂
Hey, clearly Khan is a favorite to you, and Lord knows how much you SUPPORT your favorites, I get that, so nothing I say is going to change your mind, likewise nothing you say is going to change the minds of 95% of the others who dont agree with you.
Originally posted by DTMYes, since the clones eradicated the entire Jedi order. We see Obi almost lose to Jango. Obi is an elite Jedi.
Clones are a match for Elite Jedi/Sith? Really?? And Khan blows Jango Fett out of the water? I say again, Really?? 🙂Hey, clearly Khan is a favorite to you, and Lord knows how much you SUPPORT your favorites, I get that, so nothing I say is going to change your mind, likewise nothing you say is going to change the minds of 95% of the others who dont agree with you.
Yes, Jango was sloppy, inaccurate, and had crappy weaponry compared to Khan.
Khan: 2
Yoda: 39
To the couple members who voted for Khan, you should know for a fact that it's instant death by Force push for Khan almost every time. Yoda has combat prescience, out-right super human Force augmented speed and acrobatics that dwarf Khan's, even Data's, and has applied telekinesis in such a way as described against The Emperor's Royal Guard.
Even if Khan has his giant plasma canons, nothing would ever hit Yoda.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, since the clones eradicated the entire Jedi order.
Yeah by vastly outnumbering them and taking them completely by surprise, at a time when the Emperor had diminished the Jedi's foresight- as referenced in AOTC.
Are you retarded or just a troll? Serious question?
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Obi almost lose to Jango. Obi is an elite Jedi.Yes, Jango was sloppy, inaccurate, and had crappy weaponry compared to Khan.
Jango could fly, and help from Slave I. Kenobi was under orders to capture him alive. And there's nothing calling him an elite Jedi as of AOTC.
We saw how well Jango did against a true elite Jedi- Mace Windu 😂
And Khan can't even fly, he has no hope 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Jedi and Sith are the elite there but the clones are a match for most if not of all the elite.
No clones even a match for Jango Fett, and we saw what the elite-Mace Windu did to him when going for the kill 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't prove you have common sense. We see the application only effective when the opponent is not ready.
Dooku was outnumbered, and your claiming Kenobi wasn't ready for his Force Attack -TWICE, even though it was Dooku who was outnumbered 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see highly skilled Jedi against Jango. They didn't just own him with force powers. They needed their sabers. C Thats how it works since he is so highly skilled. They need to worry about being shot not just owning him with their force powers. There is a reason Order 66 annihilated them all. 😂
Kenobi's really not an elite force user as of AOTC. Heck even by ROTS he gets completely owned by the Force by Count Dooku (Yoda's inferior).
Just because Mace Windu chose to chop Jango's head off doesn't mean he couldn't crush him with the Force.
Hmm funny, because I don't remember Yoda, Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker or even Obi-Wan Kenobi being destroyed by Order 66. Way to lowball the most powerful Jedi.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We see Obi do so but guess how he beat him. He force pushed a gun to himself. If he could easily beat hike by force pushing him he would have.
Yeah because Grievous was a lot more durable than Khan. Lol Kenobi wouldn't need to rip Khan's chest open to shoot him. All it takes is 5 stun blasts to KO Khan(such a weakling). Kenobi's Force Push on Grievous would have completely crushed Khan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wow. Your arguments are awful. Anakin and Obi both force pushed each other which knocked them back. 😂
😆 So exactly which one of them was caught by surprise?!
Honestly are you retarded? Do you need help? I'm honestly concerned at this point!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Big deal. Khan will be shooting Yoda in the face.
Lol in your dreams. If clone troopers can't even shoot him from behind without getting their heads chopped off, then Khan's really going to wet himself 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have no examples of Jedi users just randomly owning highly skilled opponents due to force pushing. None.
Kenobi force pushing Grievous, and Dooku force pushing Kenobi. Are you retarded? No really? Do you need help.
There's also Vader using the Force to block all Han Solo's blasts, then disarming him of his weapon without even using a Lightsaber. At that point crushing his(or Khan's) throat would be beyond easy seen as Vader can even do that over a view screen 💃
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just voted. You said the only vote was me therefore you were wrong. I just proved it.
🙂This debate is in Khan's favor. Everyone thought the world was flat. Thats what is happening here again. Its round.
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Wow I mean there's fan boys, and then there's you, whose taken fanboy to a whole new level.
You've been completely stomped in this debate. You have Zero backing, and your arguments are all resorting to lowballing and lies.
Yoda crushes Khan as easily as he did the Emperor's guards. /Thread.
Here's how I see the fight going: Khan draws his phaser, Yoda yanks it out of his hand with force pull, then uses the force to telekinetically suspend Khan above the ground while he delivers a lecture in his inverted grammar.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, since the clones eradicated the entire Jedi order. We see Obi almost lose to Jango. Obi is an elite Jedi.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The blasts set to stun ko people unlike the force lush which needs to drive someone into something so it isn't just by the force push itself.We have never seen him do so. Why didn't he close the distance and kill Palpatine after force pushing him down. Answer: it isn't that easy. You have no examples. Period.
Clones were able to shoot at him. Yoda had to block. If a lesser skilled opponent can do so why can't Khan ? His situation on Kronos displayed his superb skill against an entire Squadron of foes. He is just facing one small guy who has been blasted at effort by lesser skilled guys than Khan. The Yoda you argue for doesn't exist since everything is based off conjecture. You have no proof just imaginary feats.
We see Jango take on multiple Jedi. They were busying staying alive against a highly skilled opponent. No one just owned him with force powers despite your claim that is all it takes.
Yes, stun blasts are quite effective at incapacitating someone. They do not, however, have a great showing of force to knock someone back.
The battle between Yoda and Palpatine displayed various tactics, but when it came to the saber duel, Yoda showed his agility, able to leap well up to the future emperor's head and strike. That he wasn't able to take his head doesn't show a detriment to Yoda, rather a positive case for Palpatine's own skill. In his duel against Dooku, Yoda engaged his former apprentice with a leap that covered the distance between them quite handily.
There are examples of Yoda's skill with the Force. There are examples of his skill with a lightsaber. There are examples of his agility. I don't see how you can say I have none.
Khan probably could target and shoot at Yoda, but I think you're missing the context of the situation you've presented as the OP. The gap between the two combatants is negligible to Yoda, who could close the distance in a single leap. If Khan takes a shot, Yoda can deflect it in the air, and Khan has no defense against the lethality of the lightsaber.
I have never said that force powers are all that it takes for Yoda to win this fight. Each of my proposed methods of victory all include Yoda wielding his lightsaber, including the situation I explained just above (if you notice, I've not even listed an offensive force power Yoda uses). Are you certain you're reading my posts propertly?
Originally posted by The Scenario
So out of curiosity, have we ever seen a blast hit a lightsaber that was too large to deflect? Just wondering,Were you making this up, or is there some basis for it?
I think the circular stun blasts in the Star Wars galaxy might be too wide to deflect, and I don't recall seeing a Jedi deflect the sonic guns the geonosians had. I also thing large scale vehicle blasters can be deflected, like tank rounds. Then again, I don't recall actually seeing a Jedi in a position where they'd have to attempt it.
Either way, none of the blasts from Khan's weapons (though why he has this gear considered standard is beyond me) look wider than blaster bolts.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThe emperor clouded his identity and it was a lot of vague talk. Precog still worked for the Jedi. I mean give me a break. We see Sith Lords go down. We see Windu beat Palpatine and horribly disfigure his face. They still had their precog. Watch Yoda kill two clones. I mean do you think intelligently ever ?
Yeah by vastly outnumbering them and taking them completely by surprise, at a time when the Emperor had diminished the Jedi's foresight- as referenced in AOTC.Are you retarded or just a troll? Serious question?
Jango could fly, and help from Slave I. Kenobi was under orders to capture him alive. And there's nothing calling him an elite Jedi as of AOTC.
We saw how well Jango did against a true elite Jedi- Mace Windu 😂
And Khan can't even fly, he has no hope 😂
No clones even a match for Jango Fett, and we saw what the elite-Mace Windu did to him when going for the kill 😂
Obi was an elite Jedi at that time. You can pretend he wasn't. He was. Windu was the best. Yes, we see him decpiatate him after Jango's equipment failed him. 😂
Think next time, junior.
Windu the elite acts like I have been preaching the entire time. He doesn't easily force crush he closes the distance to kill with his saber. Start honestly debating how these characters fight not based on power sets.
Khan doesn't need to fly. He can mow Windu down with quicker successive blasts along with wider blasts than the saber can account for. He doesn't miss like that awful Jango Fett against a weaponless Obi.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERDooku was outnumbered but he was far superior than Obi. We see Palpatine mow down Jedi but get stopped cold by Windu. Obi was caught off guard. Fair tactic but not ready for it due to his lack of skill and inferiority against Dooku.
Dooku was outnumbered, and your claiming Kenobi wasn't ready for his Force Attack -TWICE, even though it was Dooku who was outnumbered 😂Kenobi's really not an elite force user as of AOTC. Heck even by ROTS he gets completely owned by the Force by Count Dooku (Yoda's inferior).
Just because Mace Windu chose to chop Jango's head off doesn't mean he couldn't crush him with the Force.
Hmm funny, because I don't remember Yoda, Mace Windu, Anakin Skywalker or even Obi-Wan Kenobi being destroyed by Order 66. Way to lowball the most powerful Jedi.
Yeah because Grievous was a lot more durable than Khan. Lol Kenobi wouldn't need to rip Khan's chest open to shoot him. All it takes is 5 stun blasts to KO Khan(such a weakling). Kenobi's Force Push on Grievous would have completely crushed Khan.
😆 So exactly which one of them was caught by surprise?!
Honestly are you retarded? Do you need help? I'm honestly concerned at this point!
Lol in your dreams. If clone troopers can't even shoot him from behind without getting their heads chopped off, then Khan's really going to wet himself 😂
Kenobi force pushing Grievous, and Dooku force pushing Kenobi. Are you retarded? No really? Do you need help.
There's also Vader using the Force to block all Han Solo's blasts, then disarming him of his weapon without even using a Lightsaber. At that point crushing his(or Khan's) throat would be beyond easy seen as Vader can even do that over a view screen 💃
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Wow I mean there's fan boys, and then there's you, whose taken fanboy to a whole new level.
You've been completely stomped in this debate. You have Zero backing, and your arguments are all resorting to lowballing and lies.
Yoda crushes Khan as easily as he did the Emperor's guards. /Thread.
Yoda never beat Dooku so while you can claim he is on another level we don't see Yoda even gain an advantage against Dooku. All Yoda did was jump around and perform unnecessary saber swing.
If he could do so easily he would have. The Jedi fight based on what we see them do. We see Jedi using their sabers against clones not force crushing hundreds of opponents.
Obi was shot and luckily survived. Anakin led the charge against the Jedi. He was a Sith so bringing his name into this is hilarious since he was on the side of the order 66. The Jedi were decimated and fled due to being crushed. Windu was already killed. 😂
We didn't see Obi beat Jango despite having the force push against a far less durable foe than Grievous.
They both tried the same attack so they both knocked the other back. Neither was caught off guard so they both hurt each other with a push. Thats all. I mean Obi can supposedly crush Greivous but not fleshy Anakin. Your arguments are pathetic since you have ZERO examples of them destroying humans. 🙂
Clone troopers aren't Khan. Yoda beat no one of exceptional skill in the Star Wars universe. Khan is too accurate, too superhuman, too strong, and has the weaponry to maul a stuffed animal with a sword.
Kenobi did not beat. Grievous with a force push. Are you ok ? Rewatch the film as he did not defeat him with a force push. He needed a gun and used his force powers to snag a gun. 😂
None of your arguments have any substance. Conjecture and unsupported application of said powers. Khan shoots Yoda. See Palpatine easily blasting and disarming him for proof.
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