Originally posted by KingD19Khan is a superhuman. He won because he is that much better. You clearly don't grasp the obvious. Shame.
I saw the film. And they had no chance because the ship they were on had no weapons, they were taken by surprise, and it was only 3 of them. if they'd come out of the ship armed they would have been filled full of holes on sight.Khan had the element of surprise on his side.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYou are the one scripting here not me. Pull yourself together. You're so angry.
What past evidence? What scripting did I do? Your the one who made wild assed claims about people not even onvolved in the match in an attempt to lowball while sucking Khan's balls.He used the situation to his advantage right from the start Quan... Notice how he didn't lose his saber until AFTER Anakin arrived? Or hows about after Anakin cut off Windu's hand, Palpatine suddenly, miraculously recovered his energy and killed Windu, despite claiming he was on the verge of death only seconds before?
His pull of the Dark Side clouded every Jedi's vision across the whole galaxy for decades. try being honest to yourself, you get shot down every time you try to play being a smartass.
I made no claim that was not a counter to your original unproven claim. Thus, it is, in fact, your concession on the table.
No, it doesn't, because they can't respond to threats from the other side of their own galaxy without literally decades of prep, or finding alien tech-of-the-week due to plot convenience. Hell, even 29th century tech doesn't nearly begin to cover that distance.
He manipulated everyone Quan, not just Jedi, and I can see you have a bas as beg as your ego now... so, give me a reason to think this debate is actually worth any more time than what I have already given it, because biased fools make threads like this an aggravating chore.
That's your opinion. Wars generally has the better military tech, much, much faster FTL capabilities, generally better durability, shielding and weapons, but less esoteoric tech outside of superweapons.
Threatening? Well, apperances are very deceiving, as Khan has no way of defeating Palpatine either.
That's retarded... Nice scripting, but retarded.
He lost it before Anakin showed up. Lucas agreed Palpatine got beat he didn't allow himself to be beaten. You really are kinda slow. Palpatine feigned weakness but lost straight up. Try and comprehend the scene. Sit on your daddy's lap next time you watch the scene.
Palpatine outsmarted the dumb Jedi. Not much of a feat since they are generally stupid. He was great at manipulation not at being a warrior like Khan. Huge diff.
You thus concede.
Look at their warp speed for crying out loud or teleportation. Leagues better than Star Wars. Far greater forces.
Palpatine was great at manipulating but not as being a force like Khan. You are making my point. Khan isn't some weak ass old man who begs for people to spare him. Khan is a force who singlehandedly takes on a galactic power whereas Palpatone hides behind galactic power.
Trek has phasing and far greater weapons, time travel, red matter, Borg, Klingons, Khan and his super family, Vulcans, etc.
Khan just kills him, easily.
It is likely. Another concession accepted.
Originally posted by DTMYoda took out two and then hid behind a few Wookies. Yoda attacked with Obi due to there not being many of them. Yoda had the help of the Wookies and clung to one like a helpless koala bear.
Ah, you do realize that Order 66 took the Jedi completely by surprise, it turned the clone troopers (the Republics trusted army for years) against the Jedi right in the middle of them fighting the Seperatists. Heck, even with Order 66 Yoda managed to take out several troopers who had the drop on him, and then later managed to carve through heaps more to get to the Jedi Temple. Yoda was almost completely unaffected by Order 66, so yes while most of the lower level Jedi were killed during 66, Yoda was not, not by a long shot (so as usual, your argument here holds no water at all).
Khan wrecks this pansy.
Originally posted by DTMWrong. Watch the fight again. Windu jumped away. Jango's jet pack did not work so he died after Windu closed the gap. Defective equipment doesn't make that battle a stomp. Asterisk.
Windu didnt handle Jango easily, Q? Seriously? Mace killed Jango with ease, and Yoda would have done the same to him, just as hed do to Khan here.
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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZnope, it is a novel and not what happened in the movie. Quit clinging to hyperbole.
The novel kinda explains what really happens in the movies. Even the fight choreographers have said that they slow down the fights in the movies, because if they didn't we obviously wouldn't see anything. It's still canon nevertheless.
Khan wins.
Jango can't move as quickly as the Jedi but his skills ended one and order 66 eradicated most of the entire Jedi order.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZWhat we see on screen is a fact. Sorry, kiddo.
What GL and fight choreographers say >> the opinions of you and I.That jedi jango killed is a complete scrub by all accounts, while Yoda has a wide variety of impressive feats, only matched by Sidious/Luke.
Jango took on Obi and Windu who >> epic fail Yoda.
Khan wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
What we see on screen is a fact. Sorry, kiddo.Jango took on Obi and Windu who >> epic fail Yoda.
Khan wins.
Except that the novels are established canon and therefore represent what we see in the movies? You can't argue against canon.
Um, what?
Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides.
--Taken from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known...
--Taken from Revenge of the Sith
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZMovies are canon and you can't ignore them.
Except that the novels are established canon and therefore represent what we see in the movies? You can't argue against canon.Um, what?
Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides.
--Taken from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
This truth: that he, the avatar of light, Supreme Master of the Jedi Order, the fiercest, most implacable, most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known...
--Taken from Revenge of the Sith
Windu beat him whereas Yoda failed. Hyperbole aside 😆 .
Khan wins. He easily mows Yoda down.
Originally posted by COG Veteran
If Jedis fight as fast as you say, then couldnt one of them just solo entire armies? From what I know Movies > Novels as far as canon goes. Nowhere in any movie have they shown that much speed.
Except when the fight choreographers literally say that they didn't show that much speed in the movies because you wouldn't be able to see them...