Superman(Man of Steel) vs Marvel

Originally posted by cdtm
Whoops, I'm confusing Surfer with Doomsurfer.

Still, Doom with Surfer's powers got rocked by punches.

He didn't have full mastery of Surfer's powers yet nor did it look like he had his durability.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Should I post a picture to compare the level of destruction caused by the threats on boh movies and see who faced alone a more dangerous and destructive force?

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Not saying nothing could, but there needs to be SOME basis for the M.O.S superman being able to beat Surfer. Why should we assume he's suddenly going to be weak against Cavillman?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor beats him. Hulk beats him. Surfer beats him. Etc.

**** no. Fill this out. Remember that the Oil Rig he only held it long enough to save a few people, not really fighting to stay conscious afterwards, much less resist after the men got away, nor did he have light as the beam supporting him snapped from beneath his feet. Full resistance he fought a blast wave capable of bouncing through a planet's core, reciprocation of said force can increase the gravity of worlds by immeasurable amounts.

Superman:

Durability:

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Thor:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

Hulk:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

SS:

Durability:

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Thanks.

Like I said in another thread...he didn't look KOed to me. I thought he was just chillin underwater while having remembering his childhood. When he opens his eyes he is calm. I think he would have been surprised, shocked and disoriented if he had just recovered from a KO.

A better case for an actual KO would be when he was fighting the k-nian tag team.

And surfer will be a problem, but if sm manages to separate him from the board is a done deal, and it seems sm can deliver enough physical force to separate someone from the board. As jhony separated doom from the board.

But also surviving those world engine blast technology which is the same tech that was used to create the black holes.

Also Iirc the phantom zone was basically a black hole.

Planetary Gravity Field>>>>>>>>Oil Rig Tower>>>Armored Alien Worm.

Superman is stronger, faster, more durable and has more stamina than anyone else on this list, Quanchi. Please admit it now.

If you don't, you're wrong. /thread

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Like I said in another thread...he didn't look KOed to me. I thought he was just chillin underwater while having remembering his childhood. When he opens his eyes he is calm. I think he would have been surprised, shocked and disoriented if he had just recovered from a KO.

A better case for an actual KO would be when he was fighting the k-nian tag team.

And he hadn't even learned to fly, yet. He took much more abuse against Zod at the end, without visible injury.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Youd have to ignore the context to sell your case. Many marvel characters solo Superman as already previously discussed.

Lol no

The only one who is having a chance is SS.

Originally posted by Dolos
**** no. Fill this out. Remember that the Oil Rig he only held it long enough to save a few people, not really fighting to stay conscious afterwards, much less resist after the men got away, nor did he have light as the beam supporting him snapped from beneath his feet. Full resistance he fought a blast wave capable of bouncing through a planet's core, reciprocation of said force can increase the gravity of worlds by immeasurable amounts.

Superman:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

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Thor:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

Hulk:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

SS:

Durability:

Stamina:

Strength:

Speed:

Powerset:

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Thanks.

That's just off the top of my head.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
And surfer will be a problem, but if sm manages to separate him from the board is a done deal, and it seems sm can deliver enough physical force to separate someone from the board. As jhony separated doom from the board.

But also surviving those world engine blast technology which is the same tech that was used to create the black holes.

Also Iirc the phantom zone was basically a black hole.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol no

The only one who is having a chance is SS.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
And surfer will be a problem, but if sm manages to separate him from the board is a done deal, and it seems sm can deliver enough physical force to separate someone from the board. As jhony separated doom from the board.

But also surviving those world engine blast technology which is the same tech that was used to create the black holes.

Also Iirc the phantom zone was basically a black hole.

But that's a stretch, Doom didn't = surfer when he got control of his board. It was never shown that physical force was gonna separate Surfer from the board. Fact is Doom and Reed had to put their heads together and build tech that got SS off his board.

And what physical force did Surfer tank? Can't honestly remember.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
But that's a stretch, Doom didn't = surfer when he got control of his board. It was never shown that physical force was gonna separate Surfer from the board. Fact is Doom and Reed had to put their heads together and build tech that got SS off his board.

If Surfer's power came from his board, why wouldn't Doom = Surfer though?

Like you said, there's no real basis for comparison. It's not like Surfer tanked Ben's best shots...

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Like I said in another thread...he didn't look KOed to me. I thought he was just chillin underwater while having remembering his childhood. When he opens his eyes he is calm. I think he would have been surprised, shocked and disoriented if he had just recovered from a KO.

A better case for an actual KO would be when he was fighting the k-nian tag team.

When he got ko ed by the oil rig, he was still learning his powers, the beams under him collapsed, or that was te impresion I got.

I also read that somehow getting moved by a high caliber bullet was somehow indication that they were being hurt by it, on one of the preview videos, they explained that they applied real physics to toss the characters while in battle. Which I thought it was kind of cool

Yeah. People reaching really hard. I also thought it was cool.

Well neither movie Doom nor reed have the physical means to separate surfer from his board aside from tech. Their offensive output is rather weak Imo.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
But that's a stretch, Doom didn't = surfer when he got control of his board. It was never shown that physical force was gonna separate Surfer from the board. Fact is Doom and Reed had to put their heads together and build tech that got SS off his board.

I will have to watch the movie again, but to separate doom physically from the board was a combination of 4 POWERS overwheming doom. You are correct doom is not norin, but that will be an indication that the board user could be separated from the board by physical means.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
When he got ko ed by the oil rig, he was still learning his powers, the beams under him collapsed, or that was te impresion I got.

I also read that somehow getting moved by a high caliber bullet was somehow indication that they were being hurt by it, on one of the preview videos, they explained that they applied real physics to toss the characters while in battle. Which I thought it was kind of cool