Originally posted by beatboks
I've yet to see any strength feat that matches his best pre Flashpoint. for example lifting a sunken city, or in the old New Venice days of holding up part of the city during some 'settling' issueshis durabilit seems pretty on par as well
When did he lift a sunken city? Or are when you talking about the blocks of Sub Diego?
What New Venice one are you talking about?
His durability was always shown as being impressive Post crisis, pre-reboot. His strength is another matter entirely, imo. TBH, while I always believed that he was as strong as Johns is showing him to be post-reboot, I honestly felt like, in those years between crisis and flashpoint, there was very little I could show. Yes, there was the sub diego thing and the "using a crane like a baseball bat" part, but I honestly felt like David, Abnett and Lanning chose to showcase his telepathy and later his water hand, more than his strength, whereas Johns seems to focus almost exclusively on his physical attributes.
The sub toss and the cruise liner lifting are the equal of almost any feat Aquaman has shown post crisis, preboot, imo, and it's also the concentration of feats that needs to be recognised, imo.
Aquaman is, imo, being consistently written on a more physically impressive level than he has been in the last twenty-thirty odd years.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
curryman STILL needs a daytime partner. he's a relatively new poster and his timezone is way off from the majority of posters competing. can a judge simply assist the poor man? it would help keep things running smoothly.i would love to help him but for obvious reasons i cannot, btw
Yeah, this'd be good.
Oliver North was supposed to serve as the daytime guy I think, but he had to tap out.
I'm going back home on the 16th tho, so things'll be a lot better for the majority of the matches.
Originally posted by -Pr-
When did he lift a sunken city? Or are when you talking about the blocks of Sub Diego?What New Venice one are you talking about?
His durability was always shown as being impressive Post crisis, pre-reboot. His strength is another matter entirely, imo. TBH, while I always believed that he was as strong as Johns is showing him to be post-reboot, I honestly felt like, in those years between crisis and flashpoint, there was very little I could show. Yes, there was the sub diego thing and the "using a crane like a baseball bat" part, but I honestly felt like David, Abnett and Lanning chose to showcase his telepathy and later his water hand, more than his strength, whereas Johns seems to focus almost exclusively on his physical attributes.
The sub toss and the cruise liner lifting are the equal of almost any feat Aquaman has shown post crisis, preboot, imo, and it's also the concentration of feats that needs to be recognised, imo.
Aquaman is, imo, being consistently written on a more physically impressive level than he has been in the last twenty-thirty odd years.
the Sub Diego feat was one. the New Venice stuff was pre Coie but basically he took up residence in the sunken basement of a police station after loosing the thrown of Atlantis and hand a more "normal" hero style adventure for a while in Adventure comics. there were a couple of very big strength feats in that. During a settling period he supported a building while it was being evacuated, and another where he pushed a building up to shore i up.
I will grant his strength is shown more consistently now all I meant was I dont see feats that exceed his old peaks
Originally posted by beatboks
the Sub Diego feat was one. the New Venice stuff was pre Coie but basically he took up residence in the sunken basement of a police station after loosing the thrown of Atlantis and hand a more "normal" hero style adventure for a while in Adventure comics. there were a couple of very big strength feats in that. During a settling period he supported a building while it was being evacuated, and another where he pushed a building up to shore i up.I will grant his strength is shown more consistently now all I meant was I dont see feats that exceed his old peaks
I'm talking purely about his post crisis-pre-reboot days, ie 1986 - 2011.
I know that, pre crisis, from what little I've read of it, they were much more willing to show him as being physically powerful more consistently.
I do remember some stories from year one (which would be canon to post crisis, preboot Arthur) and the like where he held up a building while it was being evacuated, but TBH I wouldn't put that on the level of the sub tossing feat.
I think that, when it comes down to it, it's much easier to make the argument for New 52 Aquaman being herald level in pure physical terms, than it is to make the argument for the one that existed from 86-11, as the feats that seem par for the course for N52 Aquaman, might come across as high outliers for 86-11 Arthur.
Outside the drafter, I think everyone will be fine with whatever ruling is made on Aquaman. Curry, Pr, do yo' thang.
Mind picks, people! Get them in; I want to see them and get to the belly-aching. I don't think a lot realize it, but the bodies are the easiest picks to reconcile. Things get really hairy in the next two rounds of drafting. Everyone's going to be upset. It will be magnificent.
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Originally posted by -Pr-yes exactly. say amalgam A is in ice form as body. and has bobbys flame form and pyro abilities as his power. i was under the assumption that the two opposing abilities would work within tandem of each other since its housed by one character. negating both powersets natural limitations
what limitation are you talking about? cold turning off torch's powers?I guess; I'm really not sure. I mean, it's still fire.