A) Jubilee unlock was DarkCrawler's idea.
B) I've learned the lesson that bias plays a huge role in judgement - people wouldn't listen to the arguments because "it's jubilee".
C) No one seemed to understand the scope of how damaging jubilee's unlocked base powers were - subatomic explosions - because they were too focused on the ridiculous nature of our (again, DC's idea) infinite amping loop.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
A) Jubilee unlock was DarkCrawler's idea.
B) I've learned the lesson that bias plays a huge role in judgement - people wouldn't listen to the arguments because "it's jubilee".
C) No one seemed to understand the scope of how damaging jubilee's unlocked [b]base powers were - subatomic explosions - because they were too focused on the ridiculous nature of our (again, DC's idea) infinite amping loop. [/B]
Ha. I didn't mind the idea, but I don't remember how well (or not well) you guys justified it. I'm sure I argued against it crazily in that tourney (on delph's site, yeah?), but it was indeed a new take on power unlocking. To that point, I don't think we had seen something of that nature (which, again, may have contributed toward judge hesitation about it), although there were a couple unlocks via other methods prior to that tourney (my Adam Warlock soul link nonsense comes to mind).
Originally posted by abhilegendnot at all. Average teleportation takes a tenth of a second or so, leaving the field for a few seconds is just that.
Limiting the time you can teleport to other dimension would be inhibiting the power of a character IMO.
My internet at home is acting up so I have to post from ny phone...
Jubilee was actually one of the few muties I tolerated/liked for years. Ironically, Havok is another, but I'd struggle to name many beyond that. Storm was by far my least favorite. Which sounds racist, but mostly I just hated how her powers worked. Eye beams from genetic mutation, sure. Healing factor, sure. Telepathy, sure. Control the weather?! Storm isn't a mutant, she's a witch.
But even back with the 90's cartoon, I enjoyed it like everyone else, but then I remember Spider-Man showing up for a couple episodes, and I was all like "Yeah, Spidey! Show 'em what's up!" I always felt that they were a team for a reason...not able to carry a show/comic on their own like my boy Pete. At least Logan has proven me wrong since then.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
not at all. Average teleportation takes a tenth of a second or so, leaving the field for a few seconds is just that.
Well, the ruling is in, so I think we're settled at this point.
Originally posted by "Id"
I disagree.Fate (Jared) was previously drafted in a High Meta tourney. And as a character he is High Meta. Golden Age Dr. Fate on the other hand, was ridiculously powerful. That sucker TK tossed a planet into the Sun.
Silver Scarab (Hall) is also Mid Meta at beast, and technically isn't Fate.
Which is why I find this build, a clever one.
That's full helmet Fate, I was trying to draft half helmet ( which is how Fate was for most of the GA). during the Era that he was without Nabu's helm he was barely much over Superman of 38 to Jan 40, with very minor magics and mystic senses. that would exclude things like simply shifting to the afterlife in search of Wotan, shifting to other dimensions and dictating terms to dimensional entities, peeling back the "veil of reality" to show a fake magician the real power and all the feats of drawing on the energy in other things like alien space ships to destriy them.
I also disagree with your Idea for Jarred. drafting his body would not give you his knife and darts. therdore nithing to transform into Helm. As I see it the only artifact you would get is the cloak of destiny because it's needed to keep his chaotic arm from attacking and destroying himself. hence the only one that could be part of the body.
Half helm had monstrous physical prowess, well above the turney cap.
Well in regards to Jared. You have the body of the chosen Fate, and the true heir to Fate in Hector. Combine them and you have Dr. Fate, than its within your ability to summon your Helmet and Amulet. Thats the clever part. I would run this with the host, and judges in private for a rulling.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Jared Stevens shouldn't have been banned. He's the weakest of the Fates and his biggest power was being immune to magic.
Not to spend too much time on it ( promise Curry) but IMO his "biggest power" was the vision thing. It opened up so much. the fact that he could see portents to the truth behind things in everything, see the fate of anyone he looked upon, see spartial tangents and travel them to anywhere in the multiverse ( once Doc Occult showed him how). As body pick IMO that would not have been mine to use on it's own. Using either Vic (as I have) or more likely Occult ( disk also giving that magic immunity) would have unlocked it in spades.
Half helm had monstrous physical prowess, well above the turney cap.
MONSTROUS is a stretch and a half. Most of his battles were against ordinary hoods. Oh he fought the likes of Mr Who etc but they were able to match him and they were well below anyone here. Hell in More Fun 75 a gangster throws a rope/noose over him and he lacks even the strength to break a simple rope before it cuts off his air and he's almost KO'd.
I love Fate but half helmet is no where near what your describing power level. In all Star Squadron, he struggled to lift and carry an 20 seat air craft, and was put down by Cyclotron's blasts. he also lost to Supes when under spear of destiny control IIRC and that was low level supes who couldn't fly yet.
In any case as Curry said he DQ'd both so it's a none event.
Originally posted by leonidas
k, so to AVOID an attack we can dimension hop for ONE SECOND, correct? but it's fine for any length of time so long as it is NOT done in defense of an attack? and what about martian dimensional phasing? i assume cdb could stay phased for however long she wanted, correct?
I don't remember him saying anything about longer periods. I think it's one second, period, if it involves travel and/or teleportation, with no caveats for other tactics. Phasing wouldn't could, I assume.
I saw it the same way as Digi. When i brought out my amalgams dimensional travel it was soelely to teleport just like Nightcrawler or anyone else would. And seriously how often in comics do you see characters who travel through other dimensions ( Nightshade, Dr Occult, Obsidian, Hellstrom) use it for anything else, unless it's to go to a dimension which is banned.