Originally posted by xJLxKingI agree that if Stardust were poisoned by the one special element lethal to his species, and he was rendered utterly defenseless by a plot device god weapon, and he had been shot through by his own ultimate attack several times through, and the Marvel personification of Death claimed him...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/ow4b.jpg/Now let me hear it!!!!!
... that Superman might nearly exhaust himself by spontaneously singing him to death for a once twice-in-a-lifetime feat. 👆
Then again, Stardust probably likes music.
Originally posted by ODGYeah, let's forget the same DS was destroying DCU in every way possible
I agree that if Stardust were poisoned by the one special element lethal to his species, and he was rendered utterly defenseless by a plot device god weapon, and he had been shot through by his own ultimate attack several times through, and the Marvel personification of Death claimed him...... that Superman might nearly exhaust himself by spontaneously singing him to death for a
oncetwice-in-a-lifetime feat. 👆Then again, Stardust probably likes music.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Did Superman singing right in front of the Miracle Machine have anything to do with that either?Some other boards that I have visited often claim that the Miracle Machine is a multiversal-scale reality altering artifact, based on it supposedly erasing Darkseid from existence in FC.
Also Lawlz @ nearly exhausting himself. The guy then went to power miracle machine which restored the whole multiverse. If that was an exhausted superman, I'd love to see a full powered superman. But its ODG, what can you do about it?
Originally posted by abhilegend
No. It was all superman. Lulz @ this bullshit, Darkseid was dying and superman erased his physical form from existence which was large enough to drag the whole multiverse alongside him. Its like saying erasing a dying being by Ultimate Nullifier is somehow less impressive because he was dying.Also Lawlz @ nearly exhausting himself. The guy then went to power miracle machine which restored the whole multiverse. If that was an exhausted superman, I'd love to see a full powered superman. But its ODG, what can you do about it?
No offense, but I don't trust your sole opinion on this matter. Some sort of corroboration from other posters that have read Final Crisis is much required in this case.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't know. Doesn't the Machine respond even to the slightest of thoughts that in it's vicinity? I didn't read Final Crisis, but from what little I know about the Miracle Machine, this particular feat(which I have never bothered to delve into before) now has a question mark for me.No offense, but I don't trust your sole opinion on this matter. Some sort of corroboration from other posters that have read Final Crisis is much required in this case.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerit's true that the MM is a thought machine, but it doesn't work the way you think it does. The same way the Rings need to be channeled so does the MM. After all, it is designed after the green Lantern rings. Further more, if you think it works just by thought, shouldn't DS have used it too, or Mandrakk?
I don't know. Doesn't the Machine respond even to the slightest of thoughts that in it's vicinity? I didn't read Final Crisis, but from what little I know about the Miracle Machine, this particular feat(which I have never bothered to delve into before) now has a question mark for me.No offense, but I don't trust your sole opinion on this matter. Some sort of corroboration from other posters that have read Final Crisis is much required in this case.
Despite what a few would try to do, the feat is all Superman. He was able to counter vibrate DS out of existence. The same DS who within days was destroying Dcu, collapsing time, just by dying. The radion bullet killed and destroyed his host but DS was still alive. He was able to destroy everything but that little space Superman had left. To try and lowball such a great feat is laughable and just plain arrogant. This is why is forum itself is just becoming worse. You got fans and people who just try to have this mindset that they are only right.
guessing people will try to downplay Mandrakk because he got killed by Lantern based attack... Oh wait
from what i recall darkseid didn't get erased from existence, this is supported by the fact that it was stated darkseid was reincarnating inside doctor hurt (this was coming from the mouth of a dying batman) toward the end of the last issue of the return of bruce wayne arc (which continues after the main final crisis series). Darkseid stored within bruce omega energy to destroy time-space when he supposedly killed him in final crisis where in fact he bfr'd him to the stone age and sent the hyper-adapter after him so that he will see to it that his goals will be accomplished.
i could provide scans for all of this.
Originally posted by operator616Shesh man. This is afterSuperman used the MM by wishing "FOR A HAPPY ENDING'. That was the point of the mm and how Superman knows what the right thing to do is. He didn't wish for all evi to be gone, or good guys to win, just a happy ending. Whether that ending involved DS being brought back like the rest of Dcu is something entirely different
from what i recall darkseid didn't get erased from existence, this is supported by the fact that it was stated darkseid was reincarnating inside doctor hurt (this was coming from the mouth of a dying batman) toward the end of the last issue of the return of bruce wayne arc (which continues after the main final crisis series). Darkseid stored within bruce omega energy to destroy time-space when he supposedly killed him in final crisis where in fact he bfr'd him to the stone age and sent the hyper-adapter after him so that he will see to it that his goals will be accomplished.i could provide scans for all of this.
Originally posted by janus77
So, Surfer is the assured winner against Superman, Stardust coming next with a high probability of getting more wins than losses and the others have a battle on their hands?
Originally posted by operator616
from what i recall darkseid didn't get erased from existence, this is supported by the fact that it was stated darkseid was reincarnating inside doctor hurt (this was coming from the mouth of a dying batman) toward the end of the last issue of the return of bruce wayne arc (which continues after the main final crisis series). Darkseid stored within bruce omega energy to destroy time-space when he supposedly killed him in final crisis where in fact he bfr'd him to the stone age and sent the hyper-adapter after him so that he will see to it that his goals will be accomplished.i could provide scans for all of this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid was erased from existence, monitors confirmed that in final crisis. "Fell through existence to his doom".Though I would like to see the scans of batman saying Darkseid's resurrection was through Dr. Hurt.
this doesn't exactly say that he was erased from existence.
here's the scan from the return of bruce wayne #6:
http://i.imgur.com/2Kkv9I4.jpg
and it actually makes sense given hurt's portrayal in the batman series, morrison kind of depicted him as batman's devil, iirc morrison even compared hurt to mandrakk and darkseid in an interview. also, at the end of batman RIP, hurt kind of hinted batman's capture by the new gods (in which darkseid planned to clone batman) so it's very reasonable to assume that darkseid chose hurt as being his host to incarnate in.
Originally posted by operator616trying to make your on explanation despite on panel evidence.. Seriously
this doesn't exactly say that he was erased from existence.here's the scan from the return of bruce wayne #6:
http://i.imgur.com/2Kkv9I4.jpg
and it actually makes sense given hurt's portrayal in the batman series, morrison kind of depicted him as batman's devil, iirc morrison even compared hurt to mandrakk and darkseid in an interview. also, at the end of batman RIP, hurt kind of hinted batman's capture by the new gods (in which darkseid planned to clone batman) so it's very reasonable to assume that darkseid chose hurt as being his host to incarnate in.
