Superman Vs. Heralds Of Galactus

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Originally posted by operator616
this doesn't exactly say that he was erased from existence.

here's the scan from the return of bruce wayne #6:

http://i.imgur.com/2Kkv9I4.jpg

and it actually makes sense given hurt's portrayal in the batman series, morrison kind of depicted him as batman's devil, iirc morrison even compared hurt to mandrakk and darkseid in an interview. also, at the end of batman RIP, hurt kind of hinted batman's capture by the new gods (in which darkseid planned to clone batman) so it's very reasonable to assume that darkseid chose hurt as being his host to incarnate in.


"Fell from existence" means what exactly now? Also batman only last saw darkseid from final crisis dying. How would he know that Darkseid was trying to reincarnate through Hurt if he wasn't even in the present where Superman erased from existence?

in that same issue batman bonded with a biorganic archive machine which basically made him temporarily omniscient:

http://i.imgur.com/Gxz1qUw.jpg

don't be surprised, morrison's batman is truly ridiculous.

IIRC, there was a scene in Return of Bruce Wayne where the spirit or whatever of Darkseid is directly speaking to him, taunting him about how his return will only phuck everything up.

Originally posted by operator616
in that same issue batman bonded with a biorganic archive machine which basically made him temporarily omniscient:

http://i.imgur.com/Gxz1qUw.jpg

don't be surprised, morrison's batman is truly ridiculous.

Ds being resurrected by MM has nothing to do with Supermsn killing on FC7. Trying to make a connection Between his resurrection and him "surviving" in fc7 is evident of denying on panel evidence

A morals off Surfer absolutely annihilates Superman...

Surfer is basically a mini, mini, Cube Being with his only real limitations being his morals, creativity, and the amount of energy/matter he can manipulate at once...

Morals off Surfer 10/10 or rather 1/1 since its only 1 fight...

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I'll just pull off a LordofTheMurder and do this:

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Trademark infringement!!!! I'm going to sue you and bleed you dry!!!

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
Ds being resurrected by MM has nothing to do with Supermsn killing on FC7. Trying to make a connection Between his resurrection and him "surviving" in fc7 is evident of denying on panel evidence
If the MM resurrected Darkseid, then what purpose would Darkseid have to reincarnate inside someone?

Also, the "happy ending" kills off all the Monitors, but then brings Darkseid back to life? Don't get that.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
A morals off Surfer absolutely annihilates Superman...

Surfer is basically a mini, mini, Cube Being with his only real limitations being his morals, creativity, and the amount of energy/matter he can manipulate at once...

Morals off Surfer 10/10 or rather 1/1 since its only 1 fight...


Superman only has to speak. What is surfer going to do to win? Also Lawlz @ surfer being a mini cosmic cube.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If the MM resurrected Darkseid, then what purpose would Darkseid have to reincarnate inside someone?

Also, the "happy ending" kills off all the Monitors, but then brings Darkseid back to life? Don't get that.

The mm didn't affect the monitors not that I know off. Happy Ending doesn't always means good guys kill off all the bad guys. It is what it is, a happy ending, whether bad guy gets to live.

Originally posted by operator616
in that same issue batman bonded with a biorganic archive machine which basically made him temporarily omniscient:

http://i.imgur.com/Gxz1qUw.jpg

don't be surprised, morrison's batman is truly ridiculous.


I'm not surprised. That was just a question. That only means Darkseid was brought back from being erased from existence since FC made it clear that darkseid was erased from existence by miracle machine like all new gods.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
IIRC, there was a scene in Return of Bruce Wayne where the spirit or whatever of Darkseid is directly speaking to him, taunting him about how his return will only phuck everything up.

That was the residual omega radiation IIRC.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If the MM resurrected Darkseid, then what purpose would Darkseid have to reincarnate inside someone?

Also, the "happy ending" kills off all the Monitors, but then brings Darkseid back to life? Don't get that.


Morrison's new gods can only appear in proper DCU by a host body.

Monitors were far more harmful to DC multiverse than Darkseid. Didn't read Superman Beyond?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The mm didn't affect the monitors not that I know off. Happy Ending doesn't always means good guys kill off all the bad guys. It is what it is, a happy ending, whether bad guy gets to live.
They all ceased to exist and presumably turned into humans, though that might only be Nix. Even the "good" ones.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-033.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-034.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-035.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-036.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-037.jpg

Why would a happy ending bring the guy who almost destroyed the multiverse back to life? Almost the entire reason the wish was made in the first place...

This was the reason monitors were turned into humans.

If not, they would have drained the whole multiverse dry and there would be no "happy ending" then.

On an off topic note, Superman Beyond is still one of the best stories I've ever read.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
They all ceased to exist and presumably turned into humans, though that might only be Nix. Even the "good" ones.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-033.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-034.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-035.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-036.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/FC07-037.jpg

Why would a happy ending bring the guy who almost destroyed the multiverse back to life? Almost the entire reason the wish was made in the first place...

s4 doesn't enlarge the images. Ill have to wait till I get back home to read the scans.
As far as being brought back, like I said that's what the author thoughta happy ending would be. Did DS causer another crisis? Exactly

@Ahbi, Superman Beyond is the best Superman story imo. It had everything you want, good vs evil, all the stuff, and a awesome ending

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not in time.

Superman erased darkseid from existence. That's not simply a killing. Stardust can't reform from being erased from existence.
facepalm

Seriously?

Why not? Pretty sure we've seen him rebuilt himself in moments.

Where does it say he erased Darkseid from existence? It's been a while since I've read Final Crisis and with you, I just like to double check. Stardust isn't on his death bed either.

No, I'm joking. 😬

Originally posted by xJLxKing
s4 doesn't enlarge the images. Ill have to wait till I get back home to read the scans.
As far as being brought back, like I said that's what the author thoughta happy ending would be. Did DS causer another crisis? Exactly

@Ahbi, Superman Beyond is the best Superman story imo. It had everything you want, good vs evil, all the stuff, and a awesome ending

The Monitors left weren't in any danger of upsetting anything. Mandrakk was defeated twice, and their threat was nigh non existent at that time.

Yet, your logic is that they all get wiped out (you knowing or not is irrelevant since this is apparently what happened according to your logic). Yet the being who's already dead who came close to ending the multiverse should be brought back because that's what a happy ending is? Kill the potential threats off, but bring the mega threat back to life who at that time was almost the entire reason the wish was made in the first place?

Actually, screw this shit. Show the scan that says that the MM brought Darkseid back to life.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why not? Pretty sure we've seen him rebuilt himself in moments.

Where does it say he erased Darkseid from existence? It's been a while since I've read Final Crisis and with you, I just like to double check. Stardust isn't on his death bed either.

No, I'm joking. 😬

This. There was nothing stated on panel about Darkseid being erased by Superman or the MM. Don't even understand how that myh ever began. Does anyone have a scan of this because the scan JL provided doesnt say anything of the sort and I don't trust a word ABHI say (not trustijg to be mean)

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The Monitors left weren't in any danger of upsetting anything. Mandrakk was defeated twice, and their threat was nigh non existent at that time.

Yet, your logic is that they all get wiped out (you knowing or not is irrelevant since this is apparently what happened according to your logic). Yet the being who's already dead who came close to ending the multiverse should be brought back because that's what a happy ending is? Kill the potential threats off, but bring the mega threat back to life who at that time was almost the entire reason the wish was made in the first place?

Actually, screw this shit. Show the scan that says that the MM brought Darkseid back to life.

I'llgiven you a response with scans..etc tonight after work. As I said, I couodnt even read the scans you posted. And I'm notabout to spend 30 min on smarrphone *)

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Ds being resurrected by MM has nothing to do with Supermsn killing on FC7. Trying to make a connection Between his resurrection and him "surviving" in fc7 is evident of denying on panel evidence

im showing you on panel evidence, im not denying it.

darkseid was dying and was bringing down the multiverse with him, then batman came and shot him with the radion bullet, superman preceded to sing him to his death, then he tried to reincarnate inside hurt and was defeated at the hands of batman, not only that, but morrison apparently retconned batman's origins by having darkseid indirectly create batman in the first place (by having the hyper-adapter, which he sent after batman, turn into a bat and inspire the young bruce, it was an interesting idea imo). You can also see the irony here, darkseid created the thing that led to his ultimate downfall.

that's what happened to darkseid throughout the whole event, and i can give you evidence for every word i said.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why not? Pretty sure we've seen him rebuilt himself in moments.

Where does it say he erased Darkseid from existence? It's been a while since I've read Final Crisis and with you, I just like to double check. Stardust isn't on his death bed either.

No, I'm joking. 😬


He had to take a lot of time to restore him after Galactus blasted him.

Since your science is so rudimentary that you don't even know what happens when vibrations meet counter vibrations which cancel them out as explained on panel, here is the monitors explaining what happened to Darkseid

Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid was erased from existence, monitors confirmed that in final crisis. "Fell through existence to his doom".

Though I would like to see the scans of batman saying Darkseid's resurrection was through Dr. Hurt.

Happy?

You might as well be joking.

Originally posted by carver9
This. There was nothing stated on panel about Darkseid being erased by Superman or the MM. Don't even understand how that myh ever began. Does anyone have a scan of this because the scan JL provided doesnt say anything of the sort and I don't trust a word ABHI say (not trustijg to be mean)

You think I care? Not being mean of course.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He had to take a lot of time to restore him after Galactus blasted him.

Since your science is so rudimentary that you don't even know what happens when vibrations meet counter vibrations which cancel them out as explained on panel, here is the monitors explaining what happened to Darkseid

Happy?

You might as well be joking.

Superman's not comparable to the Galactus weapon. Also, Bran, is that true? I don't have Annihilation on me right now to double check.

Yes, Superman canceled out his vibrations with counter vibrations. Where does it say that he erased him from existence? Sorry, I'm in business but I don't understand how theoretical science from our world translates into comic book physics? And in your scan it says he fell to his doom, okay but how does that support that Superman erased him? You make a lot of leaps without conclusive evidence.