Superman Vs. Heralds Of Galactus

Originally posted by operator616
im showing you on panel evidence, im not denying it.

darkseid was dying and was bringing down the multiverse with him, then batman came and shot him with the radion bullet, superman preceded to sing him to his death, then he tried to reincarnate inside hurt and was defeated at the hands of batman, not only that, but morrison apparently retconned batman's origins by having darkseid indirectly create batman in the first place (by having the hyper-adapter, which he sent after batman, turn into a bat and inspire the young bruce, it was an interesting idea imo). You can also see the irony here, darkseid created the thing that led to his ultimate downfall.

that's what happened to darkseid throughout the whole event, and i can give you evidence for every word i said.

Where did it say that the Miracle Machine brought Darkseid back to life?

How else was he resurrected

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman's not comparable to the Galactus weapon. Also, Bran, is that true? I don't have Annihilation on me right now to double check.

Yes, Superman canceled out his vibrations with counter vibrations. Where does it say that he erased him from existence? Sorry, I'm in business but I don't understand how theoretical science from our world translates into comic book physics? And in your scan it says he fell to his doom, okay but how does that support that Superman erased him? You make a lot of leaps without conclusive evidence.

facepalm

Superman says that the counter vibrations would cancel out Darkseid's essence and that was the last attack on darkseid which according to Monitors erased him from existence. Both basic science and on panel proof makes it clear that Darkseid was erased from existence yet you still argue about it? No wonder you're a thor fan.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did it say that the Miracle Machine brought Darkseid back to life?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
How else was he resurrected

Did it say he was resurrected? Maybe Morrison said f*ck it and brought him back? What was the explanation for him returning in Batman? Now that I think about it, was it even said anywhere that Superman killed Darkseid? I don't know, I'm just not in the habit of jumping to conclusions without actual....evidence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It takes time as to how far he was dispersed. It was a planetary attack which superman can easily replicate.

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Superman says that the counter vibrations would cancel out Darkseid's essence and that was the last attack on darkseid which according to Monitors erased him from existence. Both basic science and on panel proof makes it clear that Darkseid was erased from existence yet you still argue about it? No wonder you're a thor fan.

Superman isn't comparable to Galactus, even if all he destroyed was a backyard. And there you go again, jumping to space cheese feats. I thought you were all about the relative?

The Monitor's said Darkseid was erased from existence? Then post the scan and end the discussion. What does me being a Thor fan have to do with anything?

You seem to have a problem when people don't take your word as gospel, get use to it. Do I have to dl Final Crisis and search for scans myself? Because once I put any actual effort into this, it's just going to end up with me raping your face like usual.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Superman's not comparable to the Galactus weapon. Also, Bran, is that true? I don't have Annihilation on me right now to double check.

Yes, Superman canceled out his vibrations with counter vibrations. Where does it say that he erased him from existence? Sorry, I'm in business but I don't understand how theoretical science from our world translates into comic book physics? And in your scan it says he fell to his doom, okay but how does that support that Superman erased him? You make a lot of leaps without conclusive evidence.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus1-027.jpg

No time frame is given, edit, actually, it's 15 days. All we know is that Stardust reformed from a Galactus attack that wiped out two herald level beings, and a planet, and then absorbed all the energy released. lol at Superman being able to do that.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did it say he was resurrected? Maybe Morrison said f*ck it and brought him back? What was the explanation for him returning in Batman? Now that I think about it, was it even said anywhere that Superman killed Darkseid? I don't know, I'm just not in the habit of jumping to conclusions without actual....evidence.

Superman isn't comparable to Galactus, even if all he destroyed was a backyard. And there you go again, jumping to space cheese feats. I thought you were all about the relative?

The Monitor's said Darkseid was erased from existence? Then post the scan and end the discussion. What does me being a Thor fan have to do with anything?

You seem to have a problem when people don't take your word as gospel, get use to it. Do I have to dl Final Crisis and search for scans myself? Because once I put any actual effort into this, it's just going to end up with me raping your face like usual.

I know. That blast was also blocked by Stardust and Firelord long enough to evacuate the whole planet. Again with stardust, he doesn't have any showings without space cheese. Or do you prefer storm blasting him apart?

Its getting ridiculous. Monitors straight up tells us that "Darkseid fell through existence to his doom". What else do you need?

I have a problem with people who can't add 2+2=4 which you're being now. Go ahead, I would just bust your fantasies as usual.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/025-Annihilation3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/026-Annihilation3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/027-Annihilation3.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Annihilation-HeraldsofGalactus1-027.jpg

No time frame is given. All we know is that Stardust reformed from a Galactus attack that wiped out two herald level beings, and a planet, and then absorbed all the energy released. lol at Superman being able to do that.

Pretty much my thoughts. And thanks for the scans.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Darkseid can resurrect himself even after he was erased from existence?

morrison's portrayal of the new gods was metaphysical, batman the missing chapters which basically retells the whole final crisis incident involving darkseid makes it pretty clear that the new gods are concepts, ideas, not physical beings:

http://i.imgur.com/qTEsspv.jpg

so if superman killed him, he'll just return, so it's entirely possible that he was reincarnating, especially when we consider what hurt was supposed to represent.

though i read all this years ago so i may be missing some slight details, there may be as well other explanations, ill check it out when i have more spare time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha. Batman was never killed. It was just a clone which was showed in final crisis. Have you even read final crisis? You are now owning yourself.

I know. That blast was also blocked by Stardust and Firelord long enough to evacuate the whole planet. Again with stardust, he doesn't have any showings without space cheese. Or do you prefer storm blasting him apart?

Its getting ridiculous. Monitors straight up tells us that "Darkseid fell through existence to his doom". What else do you need?

I have a problem with people who can't add 2+2=4 which you're being now. Go ahead, I would just bust your fantasies as usual.

Slow down and actually read what I posted. Who said anything about Batman being killed? You're so desperate to make me look silly that you end up just making yourself look dumb. Of course I have.

We're talking about Stardust blocking a blast from Galactus and you're complaining about a lack of relative showings? Are you listening to yourself? We know where Stardust stands, he's a powerful High Herald and from all indications, Superman can't kill him. And as far as I'm concerned, he didn't kill Darkseid either based on the evidence in this thread unless you can prove otherwise.

😂

You said: "which according to Monitors erased him from existence."

Now you're saying the Monitor's actually said: "Darkseid fell through existence to his doom"

The first =/= The second. Prove that Superman erased Darkseid from existence or shut up about it.

Yes Abhil, that's what usually happens, you bust my fantasies, lawlz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Pretty much my thoughts. And thanks for the scans.

Stardust was next shown 15 days later. From an attack that should have utterly annihilated her and absorbed her entire essence into Galactus.

So, that's the only time she's ever been shown to take time reforming.

abhi has entered douchemode again

Originally posted by operator616
morrison's portrayal of the new gods was metaphysical, batman the missing chapters which basically retells the whole final crisis incident involving darkseid makes it pretty clear that the new gods are concepts, ideas, not physical beings:

http://i.imgur.com/qTEsspv.jpg

so if superman killed him, he'll just return, so it's entirely possible that he was reincarnating, especially when we consider what hurt was supposed to represent.

though i read all this years ago so i may be missing some slight details, there may be as well other explanations, ill check it out when i have more spare time.

So was it ever actually said in any comic that Superman erased Darkseid from existence? Was it even clarified that Superman killed Darkseid since we saw him return in Batman?

I see a lot of leaps of logic being made here.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So was it ever actually said in any comic that Superman erased Darkseid from existence? Was it even clarified that Superman killed Darkseid since we saw him return in Batman?

I see a lot of leaps of logic being made here.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
you going to ignore what abhi posted?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
you going to ignore what abhi posted?

Abhil posted this:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16184462/darkseidexistence.jpg.html

How does that support Darkseid being erased by Superman? Hell, Doom doesn't even necessarily mean Death in the first place. Especially since Darkseid apparently returned in a lesser form.

I see a lot of speculation being made. Speculation is fine, but you guys are passing them off as facts, as if there's no room left for different interpretations.

I'm sorry a author can't use words that don't like doom lolz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Slow down and actually read what I posted. Who said anything about Batman being killed? You're so desperate to make me look silly that you end up just making yourself look dumb. Of course I have.

We're talking about Stardust blocking a blast from Galactus and you're complaining about a lack of relative showings? Are you listening to yourself? We know where Stardust stands, he's a powerful High Herald and from all indications, Superman can't kill him. And as far as I'm concerned, he didn't kill Darkseid either based on the evidence in this thread unless you can prove otherwise.

😂

You said: "which according to Monitors erased him from existence."

Now you're saying the Monitor's actually said: "Darkseid fell through existence to his doom"

The first =/= The second. Prove that Superman erased Darkseid from existence or shut up about it.

Yes Abhil, that's what usually happens, you bust my fantasies, lawlz.

Yeah and Superman routinely tanks attacks from beings on Galactus level without getting smashed to pieces. If that's not convincing enough for you that superman killed darkseid, I guess nothing would ever be.

Is there any difference to them? Are you sure you can read?

Haha, now you're straight up denying on panel evidence. We straight up saw Superman killing darkseid and erasing him from existence as stated by superman himself and later proved by Monitors.

Tell me rage, what was that shattering of darkseid's essence and his last words? Superman singing Darkseid to sleep? Lulz.

You're such a laugh rage.