Count Dooku Vs Darth Krayt

IMO Dooku takes this rather easyly. I'd give it to Dooku 9/10.

Krayt.

I'd give it to Krayt before his rebirth but he becomes a whole new animal after his rebirth. Certainly a stomp with the force, not really sure about sabers.

Whoa, what's Krayt done that would Force stomp Dooku?

He was pretty damn impressive as a sith. When he was reborn, guy could give sith the ability to sense enemies, he called every dark sider in the galaxy and what not, dark transfer, etc. Question is, what has Dooku done that would rival Krayt?

Originally posted by steveholt956
he called every dark sider in the galaxy and what not,

Now that is impressive. Luke does the same thing in Dark Nest and iirc is tires him to near exhaustion.

Krayt had difficulty with Celeste Morne, but Vader seems to have defeated her with ease.

Sure, but at that time Krayt wasn't close to his peak yet.

I don't see him stomping Dooku, but I agree with DS in that Krayt is more powerful in the force than Dooku.

Wasn't Muur possessing her when she beat Krayt though?

When she beat him, yeah. But before that he fought just Morne and she was holding her own quite well despite also defending herself from Maladi at the same time. Although, admittedly, Muur does say she would lose to Krayt given enough time.

Dooku in all three probably.

Originally posted by steveholt956
He was pretty damn impressive as a sith. When he was reborn, guy could give sith the ability to sense enemies, he called every dark sider in the galaxy and what not, dark transfer, etc. Question is, what has Dooku done that would rival Krayt?

How is any of that usable in combat?

Combat-wise, they don't seem to far apart.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
How is any of that usable in combat?

Combat-wise, they don't seem to far apart.

S66 is right, though: the list of feats you provided don't appear to be applicable in combat.

Dooku's feats are better known than Krayt, hence my skepticism. What has Krayt done that suggests he could not beat but STOMP Dooku as you say?

Unless Krayt is Sidious-level he is not stomping Dooku.

According to Tempest he's portrayed as not far off Luke-level in Apocalypse.

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
S66 is right, though: the list of feats you provided don't appear to be applicable in combat.

Dooku's feats are better known than Krayt, hence my skepticism. What has Krayt done that suggests he could not beat but STOMP Dooku as you say?

Well, he can resurrect himself from the dead, make his presence felt in the force galaxy wide, kill and resurrect a Skywalker in the same fight, is powerful enough with force illusions to beat someone who's killed Sithlords with force illusions, is known to bare-hand block force lightning (something that like, five people have ever done. The others including Yoda, Revan, and Karness Muur), he's very skilled with sabers, and he's much older and more experienced than Dooku.

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Krayt had difficulty with Celeste Morne, but Vader seems to have defeated her with ease.

Note, Krayt was trying to turn her and have her alive so he could use the Muur talisman, and in their fight she was drawing heavily on the power of the talisman. Even so, he controlled the entire fight and she never landed a single blow on him.

Against Vader, she was not drawing on the Muur talisman (and was, btw, 100 years younger), and she landed a hit on Vader before being taken down (Celeste was pretty badass).

So, both clearly had the edge against her, Vader was faster in winning but took damage, Krayt was slower but remained untouched, and the talisman difference.

And that was Krayt when he was held back by the vong symbionts that were slowly killing him and hindered his force power. He received a huge powerup when he was free of them.

Originally posted by steveholt956
Combat-wise they seem very far apart. I'm not ready to give Krayt sabers though because he seems like the only competent saber fighter in the Legacy era.

Well, based on what exactly?

Antares Draco killed 7 sith warriors at once (like, not sequentially, 7 mobbing him), after taking out two at the same time, and having killed another prior in the day.

I'd rate him a little lower than Ganner Krieg or Shado Vao or Darth Havok (who beat Draco), who are in turn a solid tier below Cade Skywalker. Darth Wyyrlok was another badass, able to hold his own with Krayt before they switched to force. Krayt's above any of them, but there's two who can hold their own and around a dozen serious badasses below them.

And of course, this isn't some peace-time era, this is an era when the Jedi and Sith and Imperial Knights have been killing each other back and forth for 7 years.

There just seems to be this odd assumption that Legacy is weak in sabers based on precisely jack squat. Pretty much any major saber user in Legacy can cut down a half-dozen normal Jedi/sith like they're nothing, and by 'major' I can still mean 'would be lucky to last five seconds against Krayt'.

Originally posted by steveholt956
Combat-wise they seem very far apart. I'm not ready to give Krayt sabers though because he seems like the only competent saber fighter in the Legacy era.

So if you're not ready to give Krayt sabers, then how do you suggest he would overcome Dooku in combat, let alone "stomp" him? He doesn't have superior TK or lightning, and none of the feats you listed are usable in combat.