Count Dooku Vs Darth Krayt

Originally posted by Q99
Oh yes, that reminds me another thing- Opress shoved the ship. Cade threw it, fast enough to be used as a projectile and a good distance.

That's a lot more kinetic energy than a simple lift or shove.

Originally posted by Q99
Once Krayt becomes Krayt, no-one has ever gotten the upper hand, pushed him back, or whatever in a lightsaber duel, period.

Originally posted by Q99
And he's got the experience for him, and we know his base level as A'Sharad was good before he got two major, major upgrades.

Originally posted by Q99
Based on Wyyrlok overcoming a Dark Lord of great power easily.

Originally posted by Q99
Based on Cade being a Skywalker with big force feats who gets continually better with a saber as time goes on, based on him being surrounded by people with dozens of Jedi/Sith kills and being noticeably stronger than them.

No.

Originally posted by Q99
Hett was closer to Obi-Wan at his best and most serious than Ventress was to him by the end of the war.

Originally posted by Q99
Exactly, even if you hear about someone trashing a powerful Dark Lord of the Old Empire, you just say it doesn't seem so in vague terms.

In terms of abilities shown, Krayt's got more, and some of the others of the era are very impressive too, but by using the word 'seem' you get around acknowledging them.

Originally posted by Q99
His experience is why he's more skilled.

Originally posted by Q99
I think you're missing the argument.

Dooku > Anakin in skill due to his experience, but Anakin was >> Dooku in power.

You used the Anakin vs Dooku fight as an example of how more experience doesn't mean a win.

Except where Anakin was able to counter experience with power, Dooku is <= Krayt in power, he's got no edge there and probably a disadvantage.

If Krayt has the experience edge, and isn't disadvantaged in power, what area is Dooku supposed to be making up in the edge with?
I have seen nothing that implies Krayt is more powerful than Dooku.

[QUOTE=14385270]Originally posted by Q99
[B]Yea, 'moved,' not 'thrown far to hit someone.'

Originally posted by Q99
Savage couldn't do the ship throw, the 'protect against a giant explosion,' nor could he do what Talon did.

Originally posted by Q99
Cade's TK is much above Savage (heck, Talon's TK is above Savage, so you've got a whole Savage < Talon < Cade < Krayt chain of superiority going on here), so throwing Savage around to try and boost Dooku doesn't fly, the TK feats in legacy are the bigger and more impressive.

Q99

You are wasting your time.

You want to debate with a guy who is making assertions such as these:

"Prove that Obi-Wan was at his best when he fought A'Sharad Hett, especially since, by the time of ANH, Obi-Wan's skill has downgraded extremely."

???

As a reminder;

Obi-Wan (OT) fought well against Vader (OT) onboard Death Star.

I wouldn't take that quote seriously. Their are ample hints in other canonical sources which contradict this statement.

Important thing is to focus on "release dates" of sources.

Such as?

Let me remind you that Lucas has said that we don't see a Jedi fight at their peak in the OT.

I'll try to find it.

Vader being able to hold his own against Galen/Starkiller?

I don't think that Galen/Starkiller is weaker then Anakin Skywalker.

Want more hints?

EDIT: Timing of statements and sources should be take in to consideration. Ideas change with passage of time; people change with passage of time. It is ill-advised to be static in these cases.

What you ''think'' isn't equivalent of facts.

I-R-O-N-Y

Originally posted by Intrepid37
What you ''think'' isn't equivalent of facts.

You understand how powerful Galen/Starkiller is?

Powerful enough to get smacked by Shaak Ti?

Your opinion doesn't outweigh fact.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Powerful enough to get smacked by Shaak Ti?

Your opinion doesn't outweigh fact.

Outsmarted? She was no match and the Temple is a light side nexus.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Outsmarted? She was no match and the Temple is a light side nexus.

Later on, Shaak Ti was considerably stronger or more learned in the ways of the Force when she confronted Galen.

A sourcebook says she was no match. I posted the picture in the Maul vs Shaak Ti thread, you saw it yourself.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
A sourcebook says she was no match. I posted the picture in the Maul vs Shaak Ti thread, you saw it yourself.

I'll post it.

If she is no match for Anakin, how did she made out alive?

She escaped?