Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor is nowhere near Superman's strength let alone Doomsday. LOL @ just an edge. Doomsday is literally more than twice Thor's strength.Superman and doomsday beating probes doesn't mean Thor can do that.
Secondary adamantium ultrons? Whom Wonder Man was tearing apart with his bare hands? Phucking lulz.
😂 No, to all of that.
Maybe not, but I think it's not totally out of his league. With Mjolnir and his other powers? Obviously well within his capabilities.
What? When did Wonder Man accomplish this? I specifically remember the entire Avengers line-up just barely destroying a Secondary Adamantium Ultron with a major lightning bolt from Thor. As a matter of fact, I don't remember Wonder Man even being alive back then.
Originally posted by JBL
Thor and superman are close to each other in strength. If he was so much stronger than Thor, then why was he tired as hell when they fought as equals? You exert yourself very hard to get tired and can barely stand. Superman NEVER overpowered Thor or anyone else in thors class like BA, CA. i KNOW its a crossover, but even CM ( who is just as strong as superman ) could not out muscle thor. Your blind love for anything superman has reached to the point that NO ONE takes you serious. I tell you this because i like superman also, but you are killing the character with lies, hopped up scans and baseless claims. I almost hope superman jump out of the next comic book you buy and give you a clothsline from hell in my name.
Superman is significantly stronger than Thor.
Canon proves this definitively. I believe even RageOfOlympus would concede this point.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂 No, to all of that.Maybe not, but I think it's not totally out of his league. With Mjolnir and his other powers? Obviously well within his capabilities.
What? When did Wonder Man accomplish this? I specifically remember the entire Avengers line-up just barely destroying a Secondary Adamantium Ultron with a major lightning bolt from Thor. As a matter of fact, I don't remember Wonder Man even being alive back then.
You keep believing that bro. Doesn't means anything.
No it isn't. Even an Ion amped kyle rayner couldn't do anything to probes.
Let me check again.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You keep believing that bro. Doesn't means anything.No it isn't. Even an Ion amped kyle rayner couldn't do anything to probes.
Let me check again.
Okay.
And others have like Aquaman's trident, Diana's shield etc. If you think Mjolnir can't replicate going through Probe's you're out there. Like doing back flips on Saturn out there. Doomsday was easily punching their heads off, at one point Superman even cut through them with heat vision. I believe Thor's on that level easily.
Okay. The only one who could take down a Secondary Adamantium Ultron was Thor when he cut loose (Specifically stated). Iron Man was taking them down too but he had a molecular dissembler he stole from Ultron.
Originally posted by JBL
Thor and superman are close to each other in strength. If he was so much stronger than Thor, then why was he tired as hell when they fought as equals? You exert yourself very hard to get tired and can barely stand. Superman NEVER overpowered Thor or anyone else in thors class like BA, CA. i KNOW its a crossover, but even CM ( who is just as strong as superman ) could not out muscle thor. Your blind love for anything superman has reached to the point that NO ONE takes you serious. I tell you this because i like superman also, but you are killing the character with lies, hopped up scans and baseless claims. I almost hope superman jump out of the next comic book you buy and give you a clothsline from hell in my name.
STFU.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay.And others have like Aquaman's trident, Diana's shield etc. If you think Mjolnir can't replicate going through Probe's you're out there. Like doing back flips on Saturn out there. Doomsday was easily punching their heads off, at one point Superman even cut through them with heat vision. I believe Thor's on that level easily.
Okay. The only one who could take down a Secondary Adamantium Ultron was Thor when he cut loose (Specifically stated). Iron Man was taking them down too but he had a molecular dissembler he stole from Ultron.
Mjolnir isn't a skyfather level cutting weapon. Again with this shit? Doomsday is more than twice Thor's strength. Him beating a probe doesn't mean anything in relation to Thor. That only proves how strong an All out Superman's HV is since Kyle's energy blasts and standard superman's hv was totally ineffectual.
I think its from Avengers v2 7. I don't have the scans right now.🙁
Originally posted by abhilegend
Okay.Mjolnir isn't a skyfather level cutting weapon. Again with this shit? Doomsday is more than twice Thor's strength. Him beating a probe doesn't mean anything in relation to Thor. That only proves how strong an All out Superman's HV is since Kyle's energy blasts and standard superman's hv was totally ineffectual.
I think its from Avengers v2 7. I don't have the scans right now.🙁
How is Aquaman's trident or Wonder Woman's shield in anyway superior to Mjolnir? And exactly how are they Skyfather level weapons? Didn't even bring up the lasso decapitating one. I wasn't even talking about strength anymore but Mjolnir. If you think it can't go through a Probe, do you want me to list what it has damaged? Not that I think it's beyond Thor's strength to damage one if he's in the same mindset as Superman. Not as easily as Superman though.
The Ultron arc hadn't even started then IIRC. I don't have my comics to double check, I'll get back to you tomorrow. But I highly doubt I'd forget something like this.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How is Aquaman's trident or Wonder Woman's shield in anyway superior to Mjolnir? And exactly how are they Skyfather level weapons? Didn't even bring up the lasso decapitating one. I wasn't even talking about strength anymore but Mjolnir. If you think it can't go through a Probe, do you want me to list what it has damaged? Not that I think it's beyond Thor's strength to damage one if he's in the same mindset as Superman. Not as easily as Superman though.The Ultron arc hadn't even started then IIRC. I don't have my comics to double check, I'll get back to you tomorrow. But I highly doubt I'd forget something like this.
The lasso didn't decapitated any probe. That probe tore itself apart trying to break the lasso.
Do you want me to the list of things superman has wrecked in his regular mindset? He couldn't even damage a probe even with Mongul's help and neither could Ion amped Kyle.
Not likely unless you think Thor can hit as hard as H/P doomsday.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor is just as strong as Superman or any other top tier.
Even rage doesn't believe that.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I wouldn't apply no limits fallacy on Mjolnir, but to be frank, it'd be stupid to assume that Thor could never wreck Imperiex Probes if he was pissed off based on what it's done consistently and what level Thor can operate on when he's angry.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on the fact that people like 100000 daxamites, mordru and Ion amped Kyle couldn't do that, I strongly doubt that.
Based on the fact that Thor has absurd high end feats of his own, I find it really doubtful that Thor could never perform on such a level. There's also the fact that Doomsday and Superman went through probes and Thor certainly is on their level.
Unless Doomsday and Superman > 100000 Daxamites, Mordru, and Ion Kyle?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Mjolnir isn't a cutting weapon? Cutting something is way easier than blowing a hole through blunt force. Aquaman's trident was Poseidon's initially who gave it to him to beat a skyfather level god I believe. Also Diana failed to cut through an imperiex probe with a magical axe and aquaman's punch at the same time didn't do anything.The lasso didn't decapitated any probe. That probe tore itself apart trying to break the lasso.
Do you want me to the list of things superman has wrecked in his regular mindset? He couldn't even damage a probe even with Mongul's help and neither could Ion amped Kyle.
Not likely unless you think Thor can hit as hard as H/P doomsday.
But Mjolnir is a far more powerful weapon. Prove that Aquaman's trident is anything resembling Skyfather level please. I hope you're reasoning isn't because it glowed? We've actually seen Mjolnir being enchanted by a Skyfather (Arguably the greatest in comics) and taking it to some of the biggest, baddest threats around. And we saw Diana break through the Probe with her shield:
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/2001%20Our%20Worlds%20At%20War/05%20JLA%20OWAW/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg12.jpg
What makes her axe special? Also, you can see the Probe being chipped (Not sure why it didn't explode though):
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx281/panthergodII/Superman/2001%20Our%20Worlds%20At%20War/05%20JLA%20OWAW/JLA-OurWorldsAtWarpg06.jpg
Again, are you arguing that Mjolnir cannot bust through Imperiex Probes? I'm just curious how many scans I have to barrage you with to convince you otherwise.
Do you happen to have scans of the lasso ripping up the Probe? Doomsday was punching through them, ripping off heads and shit. I said Thor can damage them.
Originally posted by carver9
Rage, here ya go.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16204890/Wonder_Woman_v2_172_pg11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16204894/Wonder_Woman_v2_172_pg12.jpg.html
Hmm, seems that she cut through the rest of the probe on her own with the throw after it started breaking itself. There's also a second instance where they broke through a Probe. Do you have the Aquaman scene?
Anyways, her shield broke through, the lasso could as well, her axe chipped one, Aquaman's trident broke through on another occasions. Lawlz, Mjolnir is far more powerful then all of those items (Barring the lasso's connection to truth or whatever). It would tear through Probes like crazy if Thor was cutting loose.
