Originally posted by Diesldude
You just stepped down from your make believe throne of El. 👆
😂
I'm far and away one of the more sane Superman fans on the board, to be frank. Unless you think that disqualifies me from the leadership position? Not that it matters, though, because I've already assumed direct control.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you think Aquaman's trident is superior to Mjolnir simply because it has a pointy end? I think Mjolnir's sheer raw power more than makes up that advantage. Should have tapped into those reserves against the Probes. Why not? They were mystical weapons far less powerful then Mjolnir.But Superman cauterized the wound, so it didn't explode, leaving the armor intact. We literally see a close up of the armor and there is no damage.
I'm talking about all-out Thor.
How does that make any sense to you? Superman didn't fail at busting probes. facepalm
Once the damage was done, the integrity of the armor was weakened regardless were the damage was sealed or not.
All out thor may crack a probe's armor with a charged hammer throw, not tear through it though.
Standard superman failed to bust probes.
Originally posted by carver9
Ok but you are going to have to wait until tomorrow for those scans, its 4 in the morning where I am at. Supergjrl didn't take out a Probe. Her and Black Lightning fought one to a stalemate until black lightning combined his power with a small Nuke which took out the probe (and somehow Supergirl and Black lightning lived through this attack).
So what you're actually saying is that he has to wait until he's a pile of dust because you'll never get the scans in a reasonable amount of time?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankWell everything?
What? 😐 How does that AT ALL have ANYTHING to do with what I said?
He's comparable by feats when they're in the same mindset, get real here.You get real. You think Thor strikes as hard as H/P doomsday? Phucking lulz.
Arguing that Thor, one of the most powerful high heralds in comics regardless of publishers, doesn't have comparable feats to Superman and Doomsday normally is stupid.He doesn't have comparable feats to standard superman in striking power let alone all out superman and no way in hell to H/P Doomsday.
Arguing he's not at all comparable to them when it comes to performing all out is just as stupid.You think Thor can replicate H/P doomsday's feats? Honestly?
I could care less if anything thinks Superman > Thor or vice versa, but when people act like one is another tier completely or other absurdities, it's either trolling or flat out ignorance of the characters involved. So, no, you proclaiming it's "simple" is anything but.All out superman or H/P Doomsday are in another tier than standard superman or all out thor.
I'm not throwing anything away here.You are.
facepalm Again, you act like stating that Thor possessing the means to break through Probes somehow lessens what Superman and Doomsday did, when it clearly doesn't.Of course it does.
And no, that's not what I do in every thread and I challenge you to even prove that to be the case.Regarding superman and thor? 😂
But you won't as always.😂
How many threads you want?
Christ. How is what I'm asking/arguing throwing out anything?Really? How about I tell that Kyle contained a big bang in the same arc under the same writer which wrote the probe beating him. You would probably ask me the question if probe>big bang now just like you questioned if superman>100000 daxamites, mordru and kyle.
It's painfully obvious Thor has feats comparable to breaking Imperiex Probes and only a moron or troll would claim he doesn't.Calm down bro. Nobody is attacking you personally so I would like you don't do that too.
So again, if Thor decides to stop holding back, why is it impossible for him to break through the Probes?Because people comparable to him in power didn't break through them by similar means?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Well everything?
How so?
Originally posted by abhilegend
You get real.
Oh, I am very real. I'm the realest damn person you're ever gonna meet.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You think Thor strikes as hard as H/P doomsday? Phucking lulz.
Considering the feats of Thor when he's pressed or going all out, he certainly has feats to suggest he's in that range with Mjolnir.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He doesn't have comparable feats to standard superman in striking power let alone all out superman and no way in hell to H/P Doomsday.
Of course he does. The fact that you don't think Thor is even comparable to Superman in terms of striking feats is beyond absurd and goes well above and beyond anything remotely rational. There's also this idea that you seem to want to compare a "normal" Thor against an all out Superman and Doomsday which makes no sense outside of the obvious intent behind such a thought.
Originally posted by abhilegend.
You think Thor can replicate H/P doomsday's feats? Honestly? All out superman or H/P Doomsday are in another tier than standard superman or all out thor
Loaded question as obviously Doomsday can't replicate some of normal Thor's feats. All out Superman and H/P Doomsday are in another tier as regular Superman and Thor. An all out Thor is certainly comparable regardless of who you like more. His feats certainly suggest if not prove that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are.
No, I'm not.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it does.
And therein lies your problem. Thor having great feats of his own, feats which definitely compare to plowing through Imperiex Probes, do not make Superman and Doomsday look "weaker" or less impressive. That's just phucking garbage and fanboy fervor. And it's sad.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Regarding superman and thor? 😂
Go for it. Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂How many threads you want?
Go nuts.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? Calm down bro. Nobody is attacking you personally so I would like you don't do that too.
I'm not attacking you. It's just the truth. If you're just trying to have fun and be argumentative and troll at the expense of the evil Thor fans, fine. Considering I've seen threads where you've claimed that Thor and Superman are definitely peers, I'd like to imagine that you're not serious about this. But if you, or anyone else present, actually and truly believes that Thor has nothing at all comparable to breaking Imperiex Probes, than it's either ignorance (either willful or accidental) of Thor or just plain moronic thinking. Again, if someone thinks Thor is more powerful than Superman or vice versa, whatever. If someone thinks either one is completely on a different level or tier than the other one at respective mindsets/mentalities, they're deluded or don't know enough about either character to accurately respond.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because people comparable to him in power didn't break through them by similar means?
So because people who you find comparable to Thor didn't break through them, it means that Thor himself cannot? Even though Thor clearly has feats of damaging beings on the same level, if not beyond, Imperiex Probes? How does that begin to make sense in your world? Honestly?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankFigure it out.
How so?
Oh, I am very real. I'm the realest damn person you're ever gonna meet.Not possible the way you're acting.
Considering the feats of Thor when he's pressed or going all out, he certainly has feats to suggest he's in that range with Mjolnir.You think Thor's striking power is comparable to H/P Doomsday? Should I create a thread on it?
Of course he does.No he doesn't.
The fact that you don't think Thor is even comparable to Superman in terms of striking feats is beyond absurd and goes well above and beyond anything remotely rational.Well, of course not. Keep telling yourself that.
There's also this idea that you seem to want to compare a "normal" Thor against an all out Superman and Doomsday which makes no sense outside of the obvious intent behind such a thought.I'm comparing all out thor and normal superman bro. Read before you post.
Loaded question as obviously Doomsday can't replicate some of normal Thor's feats.Superman can and Doomsday laughed at him.
All out Superman and H/P Doomsday are in another tier as regular Superman and Thor. An all out Thor is certainly comparable regardless of who you like more.No he isn't.
His feats certainly suggest if not prove that.His all out feats can be matched by normal superman.
No, I'm not.Yes you are.
And therein lies your problem. Thor having great feats of his own, feats which definitely compare to plowing through Imperiex Probes, do not make Superman and Doomsday look "weaker" or less impressive.Yes it does when regular superman surpasses those showings.
That's just phucking garbage and fanboy fervor. And it's sad.I can say that
Go for it. Prove me wrong.For starters.
Unless Doomsday and Superman > 100000 Daxamites, Mordru, and Ion Kyle?
In this thread.
Go nuts.😂
I'm not attacking you.Really? Calling someone a moron and a troll isn't attacking?
It's just the truth. If you're just trying to have fun and be argumentative and troll at the expense of the evil Thor fans, fine. Considering I've seen threads where you've claimed that Thor and Superman are definitely peers, I'd like to imagine that you're not serious about this. But if you, or anyone else present, actually and truly believes that Thor has nothing at all comparable to breaking Imperiex Probes, than it's either ignorance (either willful or accidental) of Thor or just plain moronic thinking. Again, if someone thinks Thor is more powerful than Superman or vice versa, whatever. If someone thinks either one is completely on a different level or tier than the other one at respective mindsets/mentalities, they're deluded or don't know enough about either character to accurately respond.Nice speech bro. I would again request you to stop bashing. Whatever you think about me doesn't give you a right to bash me.
So because people who you find comparable to Thor didn't break through them, it means that Thor himself cannot?Yes
Even though Thor clearly has feats of damaging beings on the same level, if not beyond, Imperiex Probes?Like Mordru, Ion amped Kyle and standard superman?
How does that begin to make sense in your world? Honestly?I don't just take thor's feats in account like you do. I take probes' power in account too and the feats of the character who have failed to destroy one. Unless you think only Thor's high end feats count when one of the character who fought the probe had his highest feat ever in the same arc under the same writer.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😂I'm far and away one of the more sane Superman fans on the board, to be frank. Unless you think that disqualifies me from the leadership position? Not that it matters, though, because I've already assumed direct control.
Originally posted by dmillsHere banke. You have my permission to use this on diesledude...
Uhhmm No.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I'd agree except for Superman's edge in strength, durability and the vast speed advantage.Thor's mjolnir is a great counterpart to Superman's speed though.
So they still pretty much remain tough matchups for each other IMO
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If people think they're aren't overall peers or equally tiered with everything taken into account (barring believing one has the edge over the other for whatever reason), they're insane or just don't know any better.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He isn't. Superman is at least 30-40% stronger than thor at average.
A question to the people who consider them equals, obviously.
Do you suffer some kind of brain injury or something? Because I swear all you do is to try and contend whatever people post.
Trying to reasonably back you up here but you're getting on my last mother****ing nerve.
The heat is getting to me, it's not you 🙂
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
👆If people think they're aren't overall peers or equally tiered with everything taken into account (barring believing one has the edge over the other for whatever reason), they're insane or just don't know any better.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Figure it out.Not possible the way you're acting.
You think Thor's striking power is comparable to H/P Doomsday? Should I create a thread on it?
No he doesn't. Well, of course not. Keep telling yourself that. I'm comparing all out thor and normal superman bro. Read before you post.
Superman can and Doomsday laughed at him. No he isn't. His all out feats can be matched by normal superman.
Yes you are.
Yes it does when regular superman surpasses those showings. I can say that
For starters.
In this thread.
😂
Really? Calling someone a moron and a troll isn't attacking? Nice speech bro. I would again request you to stop bashing. Whatever you think about me doesn't give you a right to bash me.
Yes Like Mordru, Ion amped Kyle and standard superman? I don't just take thor's feats in account like you do. I take probes' power in account too and the feats of the character who have failed to destroy one. Unless you think only Thor's high end feats count when one of the character who fought the probe had his highest feat ever in the same arc under the same writer.
I'm gonna save us both some time here, but concerning the claim of bashing:
Yeah, if someone legitimately thinks Thor has nothing similar to beating Probes and is not at all comparable to Superman in any respects, they either are unfamiliar with Thor (or Superman for that matter), are trolling (perhaps not maliciously), or are stupid. That's not bashing considering I'm not calling YOU or any one specifically stupid or whatever. But it's an accurate assessment free of fanboyism.
Anyway, on topic, you seem to think that because Mordru and Ion Kyle and regular Superman didn't break Probes, arbitrarily, that means a cutting loose Thor can't...even though Thor has comparable feats suggesting he can. That's reverse projection and to be honest, doesn't make sense. Sure, I can see an average Thor struggling and failing to break a Probe. But I can't conceive of a reality where it is literally impossible for Thor to do that. Not when he's blasted through Galactus' head, shattered Celestial armor, and everything else he's ever done. I mean, I would suggest Thor (all out) versus Probes BZ, buuuuuut that probably won't happen, will it?