Originally posted by Nephthys
I believe that I have constructed many, many arguments over the years.I don't recall saying that. Although it does sound like something I would say. 😆
Well if it was then surely they could show any indication of speed to allow the player to understand that they are that fast.
Do you seriously want to start this again? I don't, but you sure seem to have a bee up your crack about it. I'm up for humoring you if you want, just don't have a screaming (lol) hissy fit and rage quit like you did last time.
Yes, I have a bee up my crack about you loafing around claiming things you cannot support as if it is fact.
Originally posted by KingD19
Gonna point out that Ichigo could barely hang with Gin's attacks, and this is a much evolved Ichigo from the one that was effortlessly swatting away Byakuya's Senbonzakura attack, which is pretty much millions of fast moving microscopic blades attacking all at once from different directions.And there's no way to prove it was legit lightning. If there is one, prove it I say.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Dunno what you're so worked up about BR. The lightning reacting feat was bound to come up.I'll take Neph and Scream arguing over something that actually matters over Quan and Scream's desire to **** each other being present in every thread.
Yeah thats starting to get a tad creepy .__.
Originally posted by AuraAngelOne shitstorm may be better than another, but none is better than any.
Dunno what you're so worked up about BR. The lightning reacting feat was bound to come up.I'll take Neph and Scream arguing over something that actually matters over Quan and Scream's desire to **** each other being present in every thread.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Hey, at least I don't follow him into unrelated threads to cheerlead. That guy can't get enough of me. haermm
Well yes. You're the giver. You need some semblance of a cool off time.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Yeah thats starting to get a tad creepy .__.One shitstorm may be better than another, but none is better than any.
It makes for amusement. And could lead to feats being discredited/strengthened/dismissed/discovered/whatever.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You want to do this again? You left out the official art,
I'll get to that.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
the consistent use of lightning by Ganon,
You mean Agahnim, right? Or was this where you claim that Ganon creating a storm means he can throw around lightning as well?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
that even before he gets the ToP his blasts move faster than the player can see in a cutscene without being lightning,
We 'can't see it' because the camera cuts away to Link being hit. Actually thats wrong, we can see it.
You can clearly see the attack move towards the camera. 'Faster than the player can see'? I can just fine. Maybe you should be the one wearing glasses lmao.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
that OoT Link deals with consistent lightning from multiple enemies across two games,
Then it should be easy for you to show him reacting to lightning, then shouldn't it?
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
that both Ganon and Link have shown supehuman combat speed to be parts of their powerset, etc, etc.
Really? I'd put both of them at about peak human myself. Arrow-blocking speed at most.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Everything about this attack is designed to yell lightning, which we know has been part of Ganon's powerset since 1991. It crackles when it hits things, creates electrical effects and even takes the form of bolts.
It looks like magic to me. Magic crackles too in many works of fiction. And their are many examples of attacks that look like lightning but don't have the same properties. As I said, the master sword is known to repel magic, not lightning.
Even then, electricity does not always move at lightning speeds in fiction. Cole's attacks in Infamous don't move lightning fast. Nor do the actual lightning bolts Azula can shoot. Unless you think Zuko is a lightning-timer. I could probably keep listing examples of 'lightning' in fiction, but I hope you're smart enough to get the point.
As King said, unless you have actual evidence of lightning-speed, there is no possible way you can prove its legit lightning.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nintendo would not commission art of something Link cannot do.I don't see how what's happening there can be denied.
Firstly that's Aghanim, not Ganon and secondly, that isn't lightning. You ever seen lightning turn mid-stream into blue fire? Or sparkling? Or is this just a particularly fabulous bolt?
Its magic. Thats all I need to say really. The fact that all these so-called lightning attacks are magical in nature should end this discussion. Magic is by definition, unnatural and does not follow the rules of physics.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It does when Ganon has shown in multiple games he can do exactly this, the attack is scripted to crackle and behave like electricity and takes the form of a lightning bolt before he throws it, and that even his non-lightning magic moves faster than the eye can track in cutscenes.
P.S. None of that contradicts what he actually said. Maybe you should try proving that electricity must mean lightning-speeds before you spout off some irrelevant gibberish.
You mean Agahnim, right? Or was this where you claim that Ganon creating a storm means he can throw around lightning as well?
You mean the avatar Ganon used in the Light World to free himself? Oh, and this isn't the only game he does it in. Herp.
You can clearly see the attack move towards the camera. 'Faster than the player can see'? I can just fine. Maybe you should be the one wearing glasses lmao.
Then it should be easy for you to show him reacting to lightning, then shouldn't it?You mean like the Ganondorf fight? Where he does exactly that?
It looks like magic to me. Magic crackles too in many works of fiction. And their are many examples of attacks that look like lightning but don't have the same properties. As I said, the master sword is known to repel magic, not lightning.
As King said, unless you have actual evidence of lightning-speed, there is no possible way you can prove its legit lightning.
Firstly that's Aghanim, not Ganon and secondly, that isn't lightning. You ever seen lightning turn mid-stream into blue fire? Or sparkling? Or is this just a particularly fabulous bolt?
That's your argument, that what we're seeing there isn't lightning? haermm Really? I guess the ice attacks in FF games aren't ice because they don't melt, that firespin in Pokemon isn't fire because fire doesn't do that, that poison in video games is usually just acid because actual poisons don't just slowly hurt you until you die, they shut down specific body functions resulting in death, etc, etc.
What the artist rendered is completely obvious. Nintendo did not commission an image of something Link cannot do.