WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
that doesn;t mean much as the audience still wants to know this character.. you just can't say Hi I'm Aquaman and I live in the ocean.. that is a very laughable statement and he will be turned into a very laughable character.. WB has to take some type of time to get the audience to care about these other characters [b]NOT named Batman and Superman.. Everyone knows all about Batman and Superman as evidenced by the high success of Nolan's Bat trilogy and Man of Steel. Affleck won't be doing an origin film because that has already been done so now going forward they won;t have to explain anything regarding his origin, same with Kal as evidenced with Man of Steel since that was an origin film.. Now you are adding in other characters who are not going to be believable not one bit unless you take the time and give them the proper story to do so.. Just cause Atlantis is based on real myth isn;t going to tell the general audience which is what each and every comic book film needs in order for success that they can believe some actor when he says one or two lines about his home..
Also since Namor is getting his own film WB has to make sure people believe in their character too [/B]

So you assume that they're likely to not believe him rather than believe him?

Sorry, not buying it.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
that doesn;t mean much as the audience still wants to know this character.. you just can't say Hi I'm Aquaman and I live in the ocean.. that is a very laughable statement and he will be turned into a very laughable character.. WB has to take some type of time to get the audience to care about these other characters [b]NOT named Batman and Superman.. Everyone knows all about Batman and Superman as evidenced by the high success of Nolan's Bat trilogy and Man of Steel. Affleck won't be doing an origin film because that has already been done so now going forward they won;t have to explain anything regarding his origin, same with Kal as evidenced with Man of Steel since that was an origin film.. Now you are adding in other characters who are not going to be believable not one bit unless you take the time and give them the proper story to do so.. Just cause Atlantis is based on real myth isn;t going to tell the general audience which is what each and every comic book film needs in order for success that they can believe some actor when he says one or two lines about his home..
Also since Namor is getting his own film WB has to make sure people believe in their character too [/B]

Agreed. They can't overestimate the populace's knowledge of these characters, especially considering how "unreal" they are. Marvel knew they had to introduce these characters correctly for their future films to work. They didn't underestimate the audience's intelligence. It just seems like they're saying, "People know Batman and Superman, that's all we need. We can throw in anyone else because people will just accept it. A guy from Atlantis, an Amazon with an invisible plane, etc., whatever... Superman an Batman is all we need to establish.". I sure hope I'm wrong. No major movie studio can be that stupid, can it?

Originally posted by roughrider
If they tried to do that when Marvel made Thor, it wouldn't have worked. Instead they took care to explain Asgard's relationship to Earth, and we spent time there.

Of course, Marvel cared enough to give Thor his own movie as well.
DC & Warners are still battling their fear that the audience doesn't care enough about anyone else from their universe other than Superman & Batman, so they are shoehorning as many characters as they can into the next two movies, to try and force a bond with a larger audience.

Needs to be said again: DC & Warners have no faith in a solo Wonder Woman movie; meanwhile, Marvel Studios is boldly making a space movie with an anthropomorphic raccoon as the breakout star. 😛

Grow a pair and stop the mad rush, is my message to DC Entertainment.

Originally posted by Golgo13
How is Fox or Sony coping Marvel again? Are they going to have a bunch of solo titles to lead into a bigger one?

Just as Batman Begins made the word 'reboot' popular and other studios started copying (James Bond, Spider Man etc.), Marvel Studios introduced the idea of a shared cinematic universe and producing 'side-quels' (the successor to the spinoff) instead of direct sequels. Paramount wants to do that going forward with their recent reboot of Jack Ryan, to use other characters to create a Tom Clancy universe. Sony wants to expand their Spider Man universe by doing Venom and Sinister Six movies. Fox wants to expand out their X-Men universe even further, with X-Force and Deadpool.

Hollywood studios are notorious for jumping on the bandwagon of a new formula that works. It's why we got decades of science fiction action movies that followed in the wake of Star Wars, so much more tween fantasy fiction leapt to the big screen after Harry Potter, gangster films following Goodfellas, Native American films following Dances With Wolves, and the whole serial killer genre in movies & TV after The Science Of The Lambs. Marvel has shown a way to continuously make sequels that don't induce sequel fatigue in their audience - by going sideways and building on a different corner of the universe instead.

That DC & Warners won't go that way because of stubbornness(copying their rival), impatience or fear...get over it.

Originally posted by roughrider
Just as Batman Begins made the word 'reboot' popular and other studios started copying (James Bond, Spider Man etc.), Marvel Studios introduced the idea of a shared cinematic universe and producing 'side-quels' (the successor to the spinoff) instead of direct sequels. Paramount wants to do that going forward with their recent reboot of Jack Ryan, to use other characters to create a Tom Clancy universe. Sony wants to expand their Spider Man universe by doing Venom and Sinister Six movies. Fox wants to expand out their X-Men universe even further, with X-Force and Deadpool.

Hollywood studios are notorious for jumping on the bandwagon of a new formula that works. It's why we got decades of science fiction action movies that followed in the wake of Star Wars, so much more tween fantasy fiction leapt to the big screen after Harry Potter, gangster films following Goodfellas, Native American films following Dances With Wolves, and the whole serial killer genre in movies & TV after The Science Of The Lambs. Marvel has shown a way to continuously make sequels that don't induce sequel fatigue in their audience - by going sideways and building on a different corner of the universe instead.

That DC & Warners won't go that way because of stubbornness(copying their rival), impatience or fear...get over it.

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Precisely.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
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Precisely.

I mean, this is also Disney's strategy with Star Wars going forward, as Gareth Edwards was introduced as the director of a 'side-quel' spinoff to come out one year after Episode VII is released. Expanding a shared universe the Marvel way, it's the hot new thing in Hollywood.

Originally posted by roughrider
it's the hot new thing in Hollywood.

Yep and the only reason WB wouldn't get on board and follow the Formula the way Marvel set out is either arrogance due to the fact that Marvel started this trend (on a big scale that is), or it's paranoia that they have no potential for Solo franchises without Batman and Superman.

I loved Quicksilver in DOFP but am also pretty annoyed that WB have been so slow in getting on with their other DC products that Quicksilver has made it to the big screen before the Flash! And it's not like nobody noticed Quicksilver. People have, and that's the GA's foremost image of a speedster now, and will be even more so next year when he appears again in Avengers 2 and then again in 2016 with X-Men Apocalypse. And unless he has a cameo in BvS we still won't have any Flash by that point. And why? "Oh well we can't get on with a Flash movie now before JL, because that would be copying Marvel, and besides no one would be interested without Batman or Superman."

Originally posted by roughrider
Just as Batman Begins made the word 'reboot' popular and other studios started copying (James Bond, Spider Man etc.), Marvel Studios introduced the idea of a shared cinematic universe and producing 'side-quels' (the successor to the spinoff) instead of direct sequels. Paramount wants to do that going forward with their recent reboot of Jack Ryan, to use other characters to create a Tom Clancy universe. Sony wants to expand their Spider Man universe by doing Venom and Sinister Six movies. Fox wants to expand out their X-Men universe even further, with X-Force and Deadpool.

Hollywood studios are notorious for jumping on the bandwagon of a new formula that works. It's why we got decades of science fiction action movies that followed in the wake of Star Wars, so much more tween fantasy fiction leapt to the big screen after Harry Potter, gangster films following Goodfellas, Native American films following Dances With Wolves, and the whole serial killer genre in movies & TV after The Science Of The Lambs. Marvel has shown a way to continuously make sequels that don't induce sequel fatigue in their audience - by going sideways and building on a different corner of the universe instead.

That DC & Warners won't go that way because of stubbornness(copying their rival), impatience or fear...get over it.

And that could very well be a GOOD thing for them not to copy Marvel. Get over it. Marvel Studios way isn't the ONLY way.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So you assume that they're likely to not believe him rather than believe him?

Sorry, not buying it.

you will most likely be the only one.. The general audience MUST CARE.. there is no other way around it... while you might buy a one liner, others clearly will not. they will want to know some sort of backstory of WHO Aquaman is and why he has these powers..

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Agreed. They can't overestimate the populace's knowledge of these characters, especially considering how "unreal" they are. Marvel knew they had to introduce these characters correctly for their future films to work. They didn't underestimate the audience's intelligence. It just seems like they're saying, "People know Batman and Superman, that's all we need. We can throw in anyone else because people will just accept it. A guy from Atlantis, an Amazon with an invisible plane, etc., whatever... Superman an Batman is all we need to establish.". I sure hope I'm wrong. No major movie studio can be that stupid, can it?

clearly tsujihara can't think right, but then again he did come from television and that is different from movies..

Originally posted by roughrider
Just as Batman Begins made the word 'reboot' popular and other studios started copying (James Bond, Spider Man etc.), Marvel Studios introduced the idea of a shared cinematic universe and producing 'side-quels' (the successor to the spinoff) instead of direct sequels. Paramount wants to do that going forward with their recent reboot of Jack Ryan, to use other characters to create a Tom Clancy universe. Sony wants to expand their Spider Man universe by doing Venom and Sinister Six movies. Fox wants to expand out their X-Men universe even further, with X-Force and Deadpool.

Hollywood studios are notorious for jumping on the bandwagon of a new formula that works. It's why we got decades of science fiction action movies that followed in the wake of Star Wars, so much more tween fantasy fiction leapt to the big screen after Harry Potter, gangster films following Goodfellas, Native American films following Dances With Wolves, and the whole serial killer genre in movies & TV after The Science Of The Lambs. Marvel has shown a way to continuously make sequels that don't induce sequel fatigue in their audience - by going sideways and building on a different corner of the universe instead.

That DC & Warners won't go that way because of stubbornness(copying their rival), impatience or fear...get over it.

damn straight

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yep and the only reason WB wouldn't get on board and follow the Formula the way Marvel set out is either arrogance due to the fact that Marvel started this trend (on a big scale that is), or it's paranoia that they have no potential for Solo franchises without Batman and Superman.

I loved Quicksilver in DOFP but am also pretty annoyed that WB have been so slow in getting on with their other DC products that Quicksilver has made it to the big screen before the Flash! And it's not like nobody noticed Quicksilver. People have, and that's the GA's foremost image of a speedster now, and will be even more so next year when he appears again in Avengers 2 and then again in 2016 with X-Men Apocalypse. And unless he has a cameo in BvS we still won't have any Flash by that point. And why? "Oh well we can't get on with a Flash movie now before JL, because that would be copying Marvel, and besides no one would be interested without Batman or Superman."

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Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
you will most likely be the only one.. The general audience [b]MUST CARE.. there is no other way around it... while you might buy a one liner, others clearly will not. they will want to know some sort of backstory of WHO Aquaman is and why he has these powers..

clearly tsujihara can't think right, but then again he did come from television and that is different from movies..

damn straight

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HAHAH! If Tsuihara gives us a bunch of DC movies that aren't Batman and Superman, he should be getting a crap load of credit. He's already gone on record in saying there will be 9-12 DC movies in development. Hopefully we hear more at Comic-Con.

Originally posted by Golgo13
HAHAH! If Tsuihara gives us a bunch of DC movies that aren't Batman and Superman, he should be getting a crap load of credit. He's already gone on record in saying there will be 9-12 DC movies in development. Hopefully we hear more at Comic-Con.

DC & Warners have blown hot air about movies in development for decades, and what have they come up in all that time aside from Superman, Batman and special Vertigo projects? - Steel. Green Lantern.
And when they tanked, they got scared.

When they actually have some other f***ing movies that aren't f***ing Superman or Batman related sitting in f***ing theatres, then you will get credit as being right.

(Drops the mike and leaves the stage)

I feel like im in the ****ing twilight zone right now...

Originally posted by roughrider
DC & Warners have blown hot air about movies in development for decades, and what have they come up in all that time aside from Superman, Batman and special Vertigo projects? - Steel. Green Lantern.
And when they tanked, they got scared.

When they actually have some other f***ing movies that aren't f***ing Superman or Batman related sitting in f***ing theatres, then you will get credit as being right.

(Drops the mike and leaves the stage)

Hahaha u mad? Did you read my post, moran? I said If, not that they WILL. So far, kevin is giving us numerous tv heroes that arent batman/superman, they have also going to give us a Justice League, which a number of you haters have thougjt there wouldnt be a shared universe, including yourself. Not to mention a secret project The Rock is doing. All pointing to that WB will more than likely be growing. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Golgo13
HAHAH! If Tsuihara gives us a bunch of DC movies that aren't Batman and Superman, he should be getting a crap load of credit. He's already gone on record in saying there will be 9-12 DC movies in development. Hopefully we hear more at Comic-Con.

going on record don't mean fracking shit, you really need to understand and comprehend that.. who cares if he is talking out of arse, he needs to actually get these films a director , followed by casting them then getting these films locations so they can actually film.. not holding my breath until they are actually casted then being filmed..

Originally posted by roughrider
DC & Warners have blown hot air about movies in development for decades, and what have they come up in all that time aside from Superman, Batman and special Vertigo projects? - Steel. Green Lantern.
And when they tanked, they got scared.

When they actually have some other f***ing movies that aren't f***ing Superman or Batman related sitting in f***ing theatres, then you will get credit as being right.

(Drops the mike and leaves the stage)

well said

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
going on record don't mean fracking shit, you really need to understand and comprehend that.. who cares if he is talking out of arse, he needs to actually get these films a director , followed by casting them then getting these films locations so they can actually film.. not holding my breath until they are actually casted then being filmed..

well said

I know that, genius. Thats why i said IF! Read bra. Ill take kevins word, though. He hasnt disappointed yet.

Wow. Why is everyone so salty? There isn't even a trailer yet and everyone is condemning DC/WB or singing their praises. How about we wait and see? A discussion is fine, but wow. Maybe WB's strategy will work and maybe it will suck. No one can say for sure. I think it will be just fine. I could be wrong though, only time will tell.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Wow. Why is everyone so salty? There isn't even a trailer yet and everyone is condemning DC/WB or singing their praises. How about we wait and see? A discussion is fine, but wow. Maybe WB's strategy will work and maybe it will suck. No one can say for sure. I think it will be just fine. I could be wrong though, only time will tell.

Didnt u hear? Brucy bruce likes to go in negative. That and its popular to hate on WB. 😛

I agree, though. Just wait and see.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I know that, genius. Thats why i said IF! Read bra. Ill take kevins word, though. He hasnt disappointed yet.

you need to learn to read moreso than I , btw I am not nor will I ever be your brother..

Originally posted by Golgo13
Didnt u hear? Brucy bruce likes to go in negative. That and its popular to hate on WB. 😛

I agree, though. Just wait and see.

i will not repeat what i had previously said about being negative.. learn to read instead of "al bundying"

Originally posted by emporerpants
Wow. Why is everyone so salty? There isn't even a trailer yet and everyone is condemning DC/WB or singing their praises. How about we wait and see? A discussion is fine, but wow. Maybe WB's strategy will work and maybe it will suck. No one can say for sure. I think it will be just fine. I could be wrong though, only time will tell.

Time is a luxury they do not have

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
you will most likely be the only one.. The general audience [b]MUST CARE.. there is no other way around it... while you might buy a one liner, others clearly will not. they will want to know some sort of backstory of WHO Aquaman is and why he has these powers.[/B]

Are you serious right now? You hate Aquaman too?

Why is it okay for Quicksilver to show up in DOFP and steal the show, but not Aquaman in JL?

And this is Aquaman; the fish guy. Anyone with a passing knowledge of comics knows about him. Acting like they have to tell his life story in a team movie is ridiculous, especially if he is received well and gets a solo movie that would explain everything.

And no, before you say he won't get a solo movie without having some big exposition scene? No, he really doesn't need it. The public have loved characters for doing a whole lot less.

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This whole "WB only cares about Superman/Batman" thing is bullshit. Seriously. Or were people telling us that Marvel only cared about Iron Man and Hulk when they started their shared universe?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
you need to learn to read moreso than I , btw I am not nor will I ever be your brother..

i will not repeat what i had previously said about being negative.. learn to read instead of "al bundying"

Time is a luxury they do not have

LOL! Okaaay!