WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by Femi32
I still don't understand why WB wont give DC Comics their own studio. We have to wait two years from now (three years total) for Batman/Superman with no other core members officially getting a movie in that time span!

Despite this news being a bummer, this will give WB time to cast everyone for the movie, recast other characters if they have to, and get the story right. In the meantime, can we please get some work done on potential Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman movies. The wait is agonizing!

Simple: Because WB has far too much politics going on, and they like to think they know how to do it better than DC themselves.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
It was he 3rd biggest movie of all time. That wasn't just because they put a bunch of random heroes together. We've already had that with things like Watchmen and X-Men. It was because they made each one popular individually, and then put them together to make a box office super beast.

The only reason JL will probably still be a success without doing that is because it has much bigger names that sell themselves really- Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

But I don't understand why they're rushing for their successful JL movie, when they could potentially make it the biggest movie of all time with some patience.

The only risk I see there is a Green Lantern reboot. Why would Wonder Woman or The Flash be a bigger risk than the original Thor or Iron Man. It's only such a huge risk if they still can't figure out how to put together a superhero movie without Superman and Batman.

If they know they can't do that, then yeah I agree they might as well just jump straight into JL, after Superman/Batman.

I think they should focus on the big 3 first- Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. If they get those 3 right, then they can add whoever they want to Justice League, and it will only add to the appeal. But those 3 are the base members who need to be solidly established before we're crowded with all sorts of other League potentials IMHO.

But to each his own on the best way to go about this I guess.

WW is a harder sell, because she's female. Not many examples of solo females making it big in the box office. There are a few examples, sure, but overall it's still a risk. Flash is a harder sale to push than Thor or Iron Man, which is easier to look at.

Put them in with Batman and Superman and make a reason for the general public to be invested with these characters. I think that's the best way to go.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Man WB needs to get their head out of their @sses. We have to wait another year for this film. DC deserves to get crushed by Marvel.

WB has no control over an injury, if that's what you're referring to.

Originally posted by Femi32
I still don't understand why WB wont give DC Comics their own studio. We have to wait two years from now (three years total) for Batman/Superman with no other core members officially getting a movie in that time span!

Despite this news being a bummer, this will give WB time to cast everyone for the movie, recast other characters if they have to, and get the story right. In the meantime, can we please get some work done on potential Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Aquaman movies. The wait is agonizing!

This has been asked many times and WB/DC are in a totally different situation than Marvel was with Disney or whatever. Marvel stock was in trouble and they had NOTHING to lose. WB on the other hand is not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Simple: Because WB has far too much politics going on, and they like to think they know how to do it better than DC themselves.

They should be more humble than that if that's the case. It wasn't too long ago they destroyed Batman, greenlit a boring pseudo sequel to Superman, and bombed on Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Green Lantern. If my track record was that bad, I would ask DC to handle it. It's obvious they are afraid to make movies for anyone not named Superman or Batman. There was even a time they were afraid to make a Batman movie again until Nolan came along. I doubt they believe they can do a better job than DC. They're just following Nolan and company.

I don't even know if DC has even asked for their own studio. I've never heard a word from them regarding their involvement in these movies.

Originally posted by Femi32
They should be more humble than that if that's the case. It wasn't too long ago they destroyed Batman, greenlit a boring pseudo sequel to Superman, and bombed on Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Green Lantern. If my track record was that bad, I would ask DC to handle it. It's obvious they are afraid to make movies for anyone not named Superman or Batman. There was even a time they were afraid to make a Batman movie again until Nolan came along. I doubt they believe they can do a better job than DC. They're just following Nolan and company.

I don't even know if DC has even asked for their own studio. I've never heard a word from them regarding their involvement in these movies.

Johns has had a hand in the GL movie and that didn't go so well. Just because they give DC their own studio doesn't mean it will always turn out positive. WB would lose money if they gave DC it's own studio and at this point it's not going to happen.

Originally posted by Femi32
They should be more humble than that if that's the case. It wasn't too long ago they destroyed Batman, greenlit a boring pseudo sequel to Superman, and bombed on Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Green Lantern. If my track record was that bad, I would ask DC to handle it. It's obvious they are afraid to make movies for anyone not named Superman or Batman. There was even a time they were afraid to make a Batman movie again until Nolan came along. I doubt they believe they can do a better job than DC. They're just following Nolan and company.

I don't even know if DC has even asked for their own studio. I've never heard a word from them regarding their involvement in these movies.

Not so sure I agree with that. Making Superman and Batman first is what they should be doing, as it establishes the universe, imo.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Johns has had a hand in the GL movie and that didn't go so well. Just because they give DC their own studio doesn't mean it will always turn out positive. WB would lose money if they gave DC it's own studio and at this point it's not going to happen.

Johns didn't have as much input in to GL as Marvel did in to it's movies, so I don't think it's quite the same thing.

is this true http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/17/5320874/batman-vs-superman-delayed-until-may-6th-2016 and http://variety.com/2014/film/news/superm-1201062720/

Oh, I see what the fuss is about! DAMNIT!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2014/01/17/batman-superman-movie-delayed-until-2016-justice-league-on-the-way/

It was revealed a few weeks ago that Argo scribeChris Terrio was taking over screenwriting duties on the Batman-Superman-Wonder Woman film, and then came rumors that Warner planned to film a third film for release quickly after this first team-up film hit theaters, with some reports claiming the two films would be filmed at the same time or back-to-back. The next film was supposed to be a Justice League movie, and would include a larger cast of superheroes from DC comic books, according to most rumors, and this spurred a new round of casting rumors online.

With today’s announcement of a one-year delay, new rumors are bound to surface quickly. But I’ll tell you now that there’s a good chance the rewrites to the upcoming sequel could be expanding it into something bigger than just a Batman-Superman movie containing a Wonder Woman cameo. Likewise, the delay could also relate to specific detailed release plans for not just one but two films in closer proximity

If MOS was any indication, I'm sure Terrio is saving the script as we speak, which is a good thing.

Originally posted by Golgo13
WB has no control over an injury, if that's what you're referring to.

Affleck's injury is false as he was seen perfectly fine earlier in the week with his family..

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not so sure I agree with that. Making Superman and Batman first is what they should be doing, as it establishes the universe, imo.

Johns didn't have as much input in to GL as Marvel did in to it's movies, so I don't think it's quite the same thing.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Johns has had a hand in the GL movie and that didn't go so well. Just because they give DC their own studio doesn't mean it will always turn out positive. WB would lose money if they gave DC it's own studio and at this point it's not going to happen.

Green Lantern's original draft had the plot primarily in space with Legion and Hammond as the villains. It went through 5 rewrites of that premise before another writer rewrote the whole film. I bet that last writer had the WB mentality and of course, it backfires. I knew the Arrow writers weren't that bad. It's too bad that happened.

15 minute time limit is up so sorry for double post..

X-Men: Apocalypse comes out the following week, followed by Amazing Spiderman 3..

just in case nobody believes me..

http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/batman-superman-movie-moved-to-may-6-2016-warner-bros/#more-666865

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not so sure I agree with that. Making Superman and Batman first is what they should be doing, as it establishes the universe, imo.

I don't have a problem with establishing those two first. It's the rule. I just want plans for the other characters. Superman had his reboot and Batman will be in the sequel. What about the other characters? We've waited too long to potentially wait two more years to get an official announcement for other JL members.

Originally posted by Femi32
Green Lantern's original draft had the plot primarily in space with Legion and Hammond as the villains. It went through 5 rewrites of that premise before another writer rewrote the whole film. I bet that last writer had the WB mentality and of course, it backfires. I knew the Arrow writers weren't that bad. It's too bad that happened.

Rewrites happen all the time in Hollywood, though. Not too surprising. Which is why the MOS sequel has been pushed back

Originally posted by Femi32
I don't have a problem with establishing those two first. It's the rule. I just want plans for the other characters. Superman had his reboot and Batman will be in the sequel. What about the other characters? We've waited too long to potentially wait two more years to get an official announcement for other JL members.

They haven't established Batman yet, and Superman has had one movie. They're literally just starting. As we get closer to the release date, I'm sure we'll see more characters starting to get looked at.

They're taking it slow and steady, I hope.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Rewrites happen all the time in Hollywood, though. Not too surprising. Which is why the MOS sequel has been pushed back

not prior to principle photography they don't... but since this did, just tells me the budget will sky rocket among other things and it only has basically one week to make a lot of money as X-Men: Apocalypse will undoubtedly beat it out in its second week of release

Pushing it back is a good thing. I'd rather they take their time and plan everything out rather than just try to pump out a sequel. I also doubt it will actually be released in May. WB has always had late July releases on a lock down and I'd expect for them to release it then rather than attempt to compete with X-men and Spider-man.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Rewrites happen all the time in Hollywood, though. Not too surprising. Which is why the MOS sequel has been pushed back

Yeah but it doesn't take a whole year for a rewrite. Unless your completely changing the film and starting from scratch.

Originally posted by ares834
Pushing it back is a good thing. I'd rather they take their time and plan everything out rather than just try to pump out a sequel.

If they're not giving us anything else in 2015/2016 like a Wonder Woman or Flash movie, then no, this is just moving too slow.

Originally posted by ares834
I also doubt it will actually be released in May. WB has always had late July releases on a lock down and I'd expect for them to release it then rather than attempt to compete with X-men and Spider-man.

It's funny that Spiderman 2 and DOFP are not even out yet, and yet they're managing to give us their sequels by that date!

Anyway it should be Spiderman 3 and X-Men Apocopalypse who are afraid of opening at the same time as Superman/Batman. Not the other way around.

What pisses me off is that we get 3-4 Marvel films a year and we're lucky if we get 1 DC film a year. Next they're gonna cancel the Flash TV show.

Either there's serious disagreements going on behind the scenes, or they just blinked about staying in the seriously packed 2015 calender.

Is this the opportunity they want, to jettison the controversial castings of Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot?

And just how soon does anyone think we will see the Justice League movie now?