Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Green Lantern - rotten 26%
Man of Steel - rotten 55%
Batman v Superman - rotten 28%This is the state of DC movies. No wonder their fans are attacking anyone who does not like the movie.
More of this BS? Not all fans hated MOS. in fact it sold very well on home video. As long as the GA likes the movie, that's all that matters. You can continue to complain about the same thing over and over again, but the fact is, Snyder is continuing. Deal with it. 😎
He shouldn't be, though, which is the problem.
MoS was okay. At best. It had some good parts, but it was let down by Goyer not knowing how to write superheroes, and some weird tone choices. It has some very good parts, but Superman himself was treated so terribly in BvS that there's very little to be optimistic about going forward, imo.
That's fine, but many here are beating a dead horse and that gets you nowhere. I liked MOS for the most part, so I'm not really bothered. I hoped Inhuman's "sources" were right, because that team would have been awesome on paper, but there is no point to complain about the same thing. Let's hope that JL gets delayed even further, because that could mean Miller's involvement could come true. 🙂
Originally posted by Zack M
but the fact is, Snyder is continuing. Deal with it. 😎
I'm afraid people are going to take you up on that sooner than later. People are going to deal with it by refusing to attend the theater to see his messes and the DC Cinematic Universe and the fans are going to suffer. Its pretty easy to just catch a pirate copy and watch it on the internet.
I just cant believe that WB is satisfied with the path Snyder is taking this down. They have to realize that BvS underachieved and they missed out on a golden opportunity so why are they content with that happening again?
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm afraid people are going to take you up on that sooner than later. People are going to deal with it by refusing to attend the theater to see his messes and the DC Cinematic Universe and the fans are going to suffer. Its pretty easy to just catch a pirate copy and watch it on the internet.I just cant believe that WB is satisfied with the path Snyder is taking this down. They have to realize that BvS underachieved and they missed out on a golden opportunity so why are they content with that happening again?
I'm not so sure. I think JL part 1 will make even more than BVS. Marvel has had some mediocre movies before the Avengers, but it didn't effect that movie at all. I don't think the DCEU will suffer because of Snyder. But I guess time will tell.
Originally posted by Zack M
More of this BS? Not all fans hated MOS. in fact it sold very well on home video. As long as the GA likes the movie, that's all that matters. You can continue to complain about the same thing over and over again, but the fact is, Snyder is continuing. Deal with it. 😎
And when people do post RT scores its always the critics one and not the Audience ones.
Originally posted by Zack MSo the huge drop off in the second weekend isn't affecting the dceu. 😂 it won't even make it to 1 billion. It's already affected the brand. This was their chance to hit it out of the park and they failed miserably making a critically awful film and splitting the general audience. That isn't a good sign. Wom destroyed this film. You reap what you sow. Marvel operates on a higher level.
I'm not so sure. I think JL part 1 will make even more than BVS. Marvel has had some mediocre movies before the Avengers, but it didn't effect that movie at all. I don't think the DCEU will suffer because of Snyder. But I guess time will tell.
Originally posted by Darth ThorSee you make excuses. The audience spoke with the huge drop off and the soon to become a reality fact it didn't make 1 billion despite the current world market. Continue to make excuses but then hilariously call for Snyder's head even though you liked both of his films. You're an idiot.
^ So let's talk more about the audience score then. Just under 70% said they liked the movie. Just over 30% said they didn't. Average score 3.7/5. I.e. 74%. Discuss.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ So let's talk more about the audience score then. Just under 70% said they liked the movie. Just over 30% said they didn't. Average score 3.7/5. I.e. 74%. Discuss.
How many of those liked came from people who rated it before having seen it though. That would skew the rating and being that this is one of the most anticipated movie of all time there would be a lot. The critics rate the movie only after having seen it and rotten tomatoes goes and counts each critic's review. So that number could be much lower than 69% in reality. It won't be 28% like critics for sure.
With that said, it's current rating is still lower than Age of Ultron's 84% and average 4.1 rating, a 15% and .4 (or 8%) difference. Age of Ultron was a bad movie. BvS performed below this. AOU isn't regarded as Marvel's best at all. It was poorly editted, poorly written, had poorly motivated villain, and plots plenty. It still beat out BvS by 15% or 8% depending which numbers used. At this point WB/DC has left it's universe reduced to its fans fighting critics and the rest of the internet. They created a poor product and fans a left to defend it. Look at the box office where it still has trouble beating a rated R Deadpool domestically. It's not good movie and it was only entertaining with certain scenes. The reason for it making the money it did is because of fan loyalty and goodwill built throughout the generations in animation, books, and other films. It's not because this movie is any good.
Batman, Batman Returns, Begins, TDK, TDKR, and Superman 1-2 were good to great movies. All of Chris Reeve's Superman dialogue from the any of one of his movie is worth more to me and telling of the character than the entire potrayal of Superman we got in BvS.
I don't get how movie sites like IMDB and rotton tomatoes allow people to start voting for a movie if it hasn't come out yet, and the people voting haven't even seen the film.
You'll just have trolls voting 10/10 just because they are fans of the material. Even if the movie is shit.
The the damage control crowd want to fall back on audience scores like they mean anyhing. The audience score system is beyond flawed and retarded and should have no relevance in a serious conversation of a films quality.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
How many of those liked came from people who rated it before having seen it though. That would skew the rating and being that this is one of the most anticipated movie of all time there would be a lot. The critics rate the movie only after having seen it and rotten tomatoes goes and counts each critic's review. So that number could be much lower than 69% in reality. It won't be 28% like critics for sure.
I mean those are people who've clearly made up their mind before even seeing a movie. They're unlikely to change it or stop their trolling after.
And it goes both ways. Some pro- DC people will give it a good rating no matter what, whereas some Anti-DC people will give it a bad score no matter what.
Yes but critics are like what 200-300 people who claim to have higher tastes than the rest of the world. And btw some of them were caught in the Oscars voting for 10 Years a Slave as best movie Without seeing it. So let's not pretend they can't have their own biases and prejudices and pre-conceived notions. And when more than 60% of them give SM3 a fresh rating, let's not pretend they're a good representing of the GA either.