Doctor Manhattan vs Team Hero

Started by wakkawakkawakka6 pages

Originally posted by NemeBro
You people are truly retarded.

Doctor Manhattan has exactly no telepathic defenses, and the team has at least two powerful telepaths (I have no clue how strong a psychic Tetsuo is). Either Mewtwo or Jean solo through weakness exploitation, and Mewtwo's shield will keep Doc out pretty handily, considering it kept out the near-equal to M2 Mew. And Mewtwo is several thousand times more powerful than Doc Manhattan in power level. But then so is Superman.

Silver Surfer just murders Manhattan. Destroys a planet eating cosmic entity >

So...what are Jean's best telepathy feats cause I seriously can't remember her doing anything other than disintegrating people.

Team still wins though.

Manhattan, for the following reasons.

-He'll see their attacks coming in the future
-He can come back from any attack
-I'd say his "brain" and consciousness are on a higher level...even when there's nothing left he can will himself back together. No brain for Jean to mess with.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You people are truly retarded.

Doctor Manhattan has exactly no telepathic defenses, and the team has at least two powerful telepaths (I have no clue how strong a psychic Tetsuo is). Either Mewtwo or Jean solo through weakness exploitation, and Mewtwo's shield will keep Doc out pretty handily, considering it kept out the near-equal to M2 Mew. And Mewtwo is several thousand times more powerful than Doc Manhattan in power level. But then so is Superman.

Silver Surfer just murders Manhattan. Destroys a planet eating cosmic entity >

Nah, you're being a dumbass. Manhattan teleports them all into the Sun's core, or into the core of a sun in another galaxy or into the nearest black hole or assplodes them and then teleports their remains, it makes no difference to him, he don't care.

As far as telepathically attacking Manhattan, his mind isn't corporeal, he's essentially a consciousness without form, who can will himself into a form. Hope this helps you be less of a dumbass.

Chances are the sun will feed Superman.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah, you're being a dumbass. Manhattan teleports them all into the Sun's core, or into the core of a sun in another galaxy or into the nearest black hole or assplodes them and then teleports their remains, it makes no difference to him, he don't care.

As far as telepathically attacking Manhattan, his mind isn't corporeal, he's essentially a consciousness without form, who can will himself into a form. Hope this helps you be less of a dumbass.

But didn't Ozy-madness prove that Manhattan was still human deep down which is why the whole "self exile" thing worked in the first place?

Also couldn't Silver Surfer absorb him too.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Chances are the sun will feed Superman.

Manhattan would see this before it happened, so he'd opt for the black hole or other galaxy option. Personally, with his Loony Tunes matter manipulation powers, he could liquefy Superman or turn him into Nerf.

Superman along with the other bricks are not something Manhattan doesn't to worry about, since he can become intangible.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So...what are Jean's best telepathy feats cause I seriously can't remember her doing anything other than disintegrating people.

Team still wins though.

Overpowering Charles Xavier.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
But didn't Ozy-madness prove that Manhattan was still human deep down which is why the whole "self exile" thing worked in the first place?

Also couldn't Silver Surfer absorb him too.

He still cares somewhat, since he went back after his epiphany on Mars with Silk. But his feelings won't matter here, this is a death match.

Manhattan can become intangible himself.

Originally posted by Robtard
Nah, you're being a dumbass. Manhattan teleports them all into the Sun's core, or into the core of a sun in another galaxy or into the nearest black hole or assplodes them and then teleports their remains, it makes no difference to him, he don't care.

As far as telepathically attacking Manhattan, his mind isn't corporeal, he's essentially a consciousness without form, who can will himself into a form. Hope this helps you be less of a dumbass.

"His mind isn't corporeal" and "it doesn't exist in this spatial dimension", lol, what a crock of shit. Telepathic resistance feats or get the **** out.

Also, teleporting Silver Surfer into the sun will do, well, it will do basically nothing actually. Even Doctor Doom could resist that kind of heat.

Also, show me Doctor Manhattan's awareness being such that he knows the location of every star and black hole in the universe, ****ing dumbass.

Silver Surfer is several thousand times more powerful than Doctor Manhattan, and has shown to have matter manipulation above and beyond Doc's (Swapping the genetic abnormalities of FF members, compared to Doctor Manhattan, who hasn't even found a way to cure cancer).

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Manhattan, for the following reasons.

-He'll see their attacks coming in the future
-He can come back from any attack
-I'd say his "brain" and consciousness are on a higher level...even when there's nothing left he can will himself back together. No brain for Jean to mess with.

He can't use his precognition in combat. He doesn't "act" at all, he knows exactly what action he will take.

"In half a second I will be mentally sodomized by a red head and a giant cat".

Originally posted by Lestov16
Does he even need a telepathic defense?
Yes.

Stop attributing abilities to him that were never shown.

Doctor Manhattan is the definition of a big fish in a little pond. He looks virtually all-powerful only because the setting he resides in is so weak.

Surfer solos.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Destroys a planet eating cosmic entity >

Which dwarfed the planet.

Surfer is blown to pieces.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"His mind isn't corporeal" and "it doesn't exist in this spatial dimension", lol, what a crock of shit. Telepathic resistance feats or get the **** out.

Also, teleporting Silver Surfer into the sun will do, well, it will do basically nothing actually. Even Doctor Doom could resist that kind of heat.

Also, show me Doctor Manhattan's awareness being such that he knows the location of every star and black hole in the universe, ****ing dumbass.

Silver Surfer is several thousand times more powerful than Doctor Manhattan, and has shown to have matter manipulation above and beyond Doc's (Swapping the genetic abnormalities of FF members, compared to Doctor Manhattan, who hasn't even found a way to cure cancer).

Did you miss the parts where he surives without a body? It happened twice in the film and the second time he found it laughable. Show me any of the telepaths attacking a formless mind like Manhattan's.

Johnny's nova barely melted the asphalt, so despite all the talk, it really wasn't like having the the Sun in New York, let alone the core. But really, Manhattan just liquefies Silver Surfer with his silly manipulation powers.

At the end of the film, he left for another galaxy. Stands to reason he knows of at least one. But if you're going to cry about it, teleporting them anywhere into another galaxy is a win.

Ha no, Manhattan can ignore the laws of physics, changing one matter into another, ie "You could've turned the gun into steam, the bullets into mercury, the bottle into goddamned snowflakes". His powers are way more ridiculous. Surfer can restore life, Manhattan can create life. Manhattan > Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by Robtard
Manhattan would see this before it happened, so he'd opt for the black hole or other galaxy option. Personally, with his Loony Tunes matter manipulation powers, he could liquefy Superman or turn him into Nerf.

Superman along with the other bricks are not something Manhattan doesn't to worry about, since he can become intangible.

Manhattan is very impressive, and I could see that scenario happening...but really Manhattan was the only super powered being. I hesitate to just believe he could explode these people like he did humans.

Originally posted by ares834
Surfer is blown to pieces.
Proof that a power which worked on slightly above peak humans would work on a planet busting cosmic warrior?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Manhattan is very impressive, and I could see that scenario happening...but really Manhattan was the only super powered being. I hesitate to just believe he could explode these people like he did humans.

I don't see why not, considering he can attack them on a loony tune molecular level. But if you don't like "explode", he turns them into water or Nerf.

Or he creates hundreds of himself to attack them hundreds of times all at the same time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Proof that a power which worked on slightly above peak humans would work on a planet busting cosmic warrior?

Why would it make a difference? He is blowing them up at the atomic level. Not sure why invulnerability would make a difference.

Originally posted by Robtard
Did you miss the parts where he surives without a body? It happened twice in the film and the second time he found it laughable. Show me any of the telepaths attacking a formless mind like Manhattan's.

Prove that him being capable of regenerating from the destruction of his body gives him resistance to telepathy.

Also, telepathic powers in Pokemon can work against ghost type Pokemon. Who are incorporeal. Try harder.

Johnny's nova barely melted the asphalt, so despite all the talk, it really wasn't like having the the Sun in New York, let alone the core. But really, Nabhattan just liquefies Silver Surfer with his silly manipulation powers.

He has had no time to study the anatomy of the non-human Silver Surfer, who is made of tougher and cooler shit than any human.

It worked on humans. That doesn't mean that it is working on Silver Surfer. Hell, it probably won't work on Superman right away.

Also, the power to destroy a planet is greater than the heat of the sun.

At the end of the film, he left for another galaxy. Stands to reason he knows of at least one. But if you're going to cry about it, teleporting them anywhere into another galaxy is a win.

Not for the massively FTL space-faring Silver Surfer.

Ha no, Manhattan can ignore the laws of physics, changing one matter into another, ie "You could've turned the gun into steam, the bullets into mercury, the bottle into goddamned snowflakes". His powers are way more ridiculous. Surfer can restore life, Manhattan can create life. Manhattan > Silver Surfer.

So a drunk Eddie Blake's words are the gospel now, huh?

He can't cure cancer. He could do nothing to prevent his former girl from succumbing to it. This is on-screen fact.

Manhattan might be capable of creating life, but do you have the time frame for that? How long would it take? How would he do it?

We don't see it happen, stop making assumptions.

Mewtwo and Silver Surfer positively ream Manhattan, and Jean probably takes him as well.

Originally posted by ares834
Why would it make a difference? He is blowing them up at the atomic level. Not sure why invulnerability would make a difference.
He blew them up at the atomic level?

Why is there gore left over after he does it then?

Manhattan has never studied Silver Surfer's physiology, nor used his powers against something a billionth as durable as he is. Yet you assume he one-shots something that destroyed a planet buster?