Originally posted by NemeBro
If Manhattan is a low-tier energy being whom needs a physical avatar to interact with the physical world.Galactus is a relatively higher tier energy being who can devour worlds without needing to take on a physical form.
Silver Surfer destroyed it.
This isn't hard.
Since when is a giant cloud not physical/material?
And proof that Galactus can reform after destruction.
Originally posted by the ninjakWhy would she have done it? I mean uh...it didn't look like she really wanted to end the fight.
If she could she would have. It would have won the final fight in X3.
And the other films. But she couldn't.
and I think I'm getting your point. originally I thought you meant she would not have been capable because she wasn't powerful enough, but it seems like she just doesn't know how.
So yeah cool.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's not it. We know he's a consciousness without form, who can will himself into form. So it's for you to prove that given telepaths can attack a mind like this.
Already did fatty fatty two by four.
Manhattan isn't a ghost 🙂
You're right, he's substantially weaker than many ghost Pokemon.
They are ghosts, aka, incorporeal. Like Manhattan, they don't have minds existing on the physical plane.
Mewtwo can rape their minds easily.
Surfer was taken out by a tachyon pulse. So it's not like Surfer is some unbeatable entity.
Nor is Doctor Manhattan, Mewtwo and Surfer for example casually ream him.
He gets liquefied, i prefer Manhattan turns him into mercury, for the theme.
How exactly does Manhattan plan to do this to a more powerful matter manipulator than him?
Surfer didn't destroy a planet. He killed a giant being who feeds off planets via suicide.
He killed a colossal energy being larger than Earth by powering through it to its core while it was trying to destroy Earth and created several explosions about the size of a planet, followed by scattering Galactus to the cosmic winds.
He's a planetary character.
So when Surfer gets back (though he lost already via BFR), Manhattan liquefies him.
Both Mewtwo and Surfer are much faster than Doctor Manhattan.
Show me Manhattan liquifying anything half as durable as Surfer.
There's no reason to believe Manhattan couldn't do what Blake claimed.
Other than that he never did so?
Manhattan also claimed similar to Veidt: "But even if I can't predict where you are I can still turn the walls to glass". Try harder 🙂
Got the video where this occurs? Because I can't find it on youtube.
Did you miss the part where he said he had no idea his Ex had cancer?
Did you miss the part that he was powerless to do anything about it when he found it? Her having cancer wouldn't mean shit if he could just say "Oh is that all lol? Let me fix that" and take it away.
The point is, he can create life. That's greater than Surfer's restoring life.
Not if it takes him countless years, when it took Surfer a few moments. We also of course never see if Surfer can not create life. Of course, we also never see Manhattan create life at all.
No assumptions being made. It's all supported up with fallible character statements from the film.
Fixed.
Nope. They get matter manipulated, teleported the **** out or both.
Mewtwo's shield will prevent Manhattan's powers from entering, and his telepathy will shut Manhattan down.
Mewtwo of course can also teleport, but he doesn't really need to, he is after all far faster than Doc.
Surfer just destroys the very idea of a Doctor Manhattan.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Why would she have done it? I mean uh...it didn't look like she really wanted to end the fight.and I think I'm getting your point. originally I thought you meant she would not have been capable because she wasn't powerful enough, but it seems like she just doesn't know how.
So yeah cool.
Comic lore shows that telepaths that spend many years training with close peoples create close bonds.
Jean struggled with Toad!
Now imagine a multiplying particle manipulating, future seeing entity fighting her.
Originally posted by Lestov16
If anybody is wondering a power limit, it is stated that even Manhattan can not take out [b]all of the world's nukes, only 99%. [/B]
99% was actually just a ballpark guess by Ozymandias.
His wording was "Even if he could take out 99% of the world's nuclear arsenal, there would still be enough left to destroy the world".
Originally posted by the ninjaknot sure I want to discuss toad.
Comic lore shows that telepaths that spend many years training with close peoples create close bonds.Jean struggled with Toad!
Now imagine a multiplying particle manipulating, future seeing entity fighting her.
Already agreed with ya so lets leave it at that
Originally posted by RobtardDoctor Manhattan is not a thousandth as powerful as Galactus was, why would he need to expend that much energy and effort to destroy a foe so much weaker?
Surfer did so via suicide sexplosion and if Surfer does the same here, it doesn't matter, Manhattan can exist without a body and reforms one in minutes.So good job, you just killed your entire team and gave Manhattan an easy win.
Silver Surfer can destroy energy beings, which Manhattan fundamentally is. He destroys the body and the incorporeal presence controlling it in one fell stroke.