Originally posted by NemeBro
Mewtwo and Silver Surfer positively ream Manhattan, and Jean probably takes him as well.
How do they beat him?
Destroy his body, he just reforms.
Mind-rape is potentially their only bet, but considering Manhattan's mind is unlike anything they ever attempted to mind-rape (non-linear mind and all that) I'm doubtful.
Originally posted by ares834He destroyed a planet-eating energy being by ramming it. He'll do all right.
How do they beat him?Destroy his body, he just reforms.
Mind-rape is potentially their only bet, but considering Manhattan's mind is unlike anything they ever attempted to mind-rape (non-linear mind and all that) I'm doubtful.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He blew them up at the atomic level?Why is there gore left over after he does it then?
Manhattan has never studied Silver Surfer's physiology, nor used his powers against something a billionth as durable as he is. Yet you assume he one-shots something that destroyed a planet buster?
Yep. Not sure why destroying a planet buster would somehow make Surfer invulnerable to being blown up by Manhattan.
Doc Manhattan wins. He has clones existing on opposite sides of the planet and solar system on the fly.
He can't be killed by T2.
There are always more to take the Docs place.
And in regards to the Jean Grey argument. As Phoenix she should have been able to replicate Xavier's mind freeze ability. But she couldn't during the final battle.
Movie Phoenix was nothing more than a powerful telekinetic and pyrokinetic with strong telepathic resistance.
She won't stop many teleporting Manhattan clones turning her particles into dust.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Prove that him being capable of regenerating from the destruction of his body gives him resistance to telepathy.Also, telepathic powers in Pokemon can work against ghost type Pokemon. Who are incorporeal. Try harder.
He has had no time to study the anatomy of the non-human Silver Surfer, who is made of tougher and cooler shit than any human.
It worked on humans. That doesn't mean that it is working on Silver Surfer. Hell, it probably won't work on Superman right away.
Also, the power to destroy a planet is greater than the heat of the sun.
Not for the massively FTL space-faring Silver Surfer.
So a drunk Eddie Blake's words are the gospel now, huh?
He can't cure cancer. He could do nothing to prevent his former girl from succumbing to it. This is on-screen fact.
Manhattan might be capable of creating life, but do you have the time frame for that? How long would it take? How would he do it?
We don't see it happen, stop making assumptions.
Mewtwo and Silver Surfer positively ream Manhattan, and Jean probably takes him as well.
That's not it. We know he's a consciousness without form, who can will himself into form. So it's for you to prove that given telepaths can attack a mind like this.
Manhattan isn't a ghost 🙂
Surfer was taken out by a tachyon pulse. So it's not like Surfer is some unbeatable entity. He gets liquefied, i prefer Manhattan turns him into mercury, for the theme.
Surfer didn't destroy a planet. He killed a giant being who feeds off planets via suicide.
So when Surfer gets back (though he lost already via BFR), Manhattan liquefies him.
There's no reason to believe Manhattan couldn't do what Blake claimed. Manhattan also claimed similar to Veidt: "But even if I can't predict where you are I can still turn the walls to glass". Try harder 🙂
Did you miss the part where he said he had no idea his Ex had cancer?
The point is, he can create life. That's greater than Surfer's restoring life.
No assumptions being made. It's all supported up with verbal backings from the film.
Nope. They get matter manipulated, teleported the **** out or both.
Originally posted by ares834If Manhattan is a low-tier energy being whom needs a physical avatar to interact with the physical world.
And then Manhattan reforms...
Galactus is a relatively higher tier energy being who can devour worlds without needing to take on a physical form.
Silver Surfer destroyed it.
This isn't hard.
Originally posted by NemeBro
She forced herself into Xavier's head and controlled his mind at the end of the second movie, without awakening her full shitty power.Also, Doctor Manhattan can create many clones, but there is one mind, and even if there was not, Mewtwo has the telepathic ranged to **** him anywhere on the planet.
Doc can teleport to Mars and create a pool of soldiers to strike back at the team. KO time is not an issue. There are more always attacking.
Originally posted by the ninjakShe couldn't or just did not replicate Xavier's feat?
Doc Manhattan wins. He has clones existing on opposite sides of the planet and solar system on the fly.He can't be killed by T2.
There are always more to take the Docs place.
And in regards to the Jean Grey argument. As Phoenix she should have been able to replicate Xavier's mind freeze ability. But she couldn't during the final battle.
Movie Phoenix was nothing more than a powerful telekinetic and pyrokinetic with strong telepathic resistance.
She won't stop many teleporting Manhattan clones turning her particles into dust.