Originally posted by Zack Fair
Saying stuff like " thors high end showings are 1%" and "This high end feat is PIS because blah and blah"
but thats really the case whats wrong with that? are you saying people can just bring thor hurting galactus and therefor debate he can destroy anyone under galactus? thas how ridiculous the arguments would be if we allow 1% high showings being debated as standard.
Originally posted by wolverinos
again, during WW3 black adam was not powered up by Isis, after WW3 he asked her to tranfrom because he was weak after the events, until then he was not powered up by her, reread the arc.Tutinax said its not a fair fight because he was arrogant and was implying he is so superior to thor its just not fair.
aside of that Tutinax mention his powers and thor reply that he isnt scared, there was not any mention of his powers effecting thor, thor himself stated tutinax powers didnt work on him.
powers such as fear do not work partly, they are either work and make you frighten or they dont.
thor stated it didnt work on him therefor again you are speculating things to suit your "thor wasnt at full power" lovely arguments.what? thor no selling amazo and despero? what the hell are you talking about?
you really bring the crossover to defend thor? because you know... if we use the crossover then it dials up to 11 you know... doesnt work very well for thor.
he did not hurt odin, just took him off balance and made him trip, after that he was spanked like a step child.
as i said again, thors high end showings are 1%, adams are much more common and does not contredict his majority .
i already addressed those points, hurting galactus with his hammer is PIS since there are occasions where galactus tanked a hit from thor like nothing, another thing is odin while being amped got knocked out by bumping into galactus, and thor did what his amped daddy couldnt? if you are going to use that PIS event then thor >> amped odin? really?
Lol at Nul shits on superman, Nul is one of the weakest incarnations hulk has to offer, everybody were able to hurt him and kinda humiliate him, Nul is actually weaker than your average savage hulk.and as i said before the examples you brought are preety much all his massive accomplishements thruought the most of his career for dozens of years.
those events are 1% of his overall performance where he daily gets put down to eat dust by much weaker opponents than the ones you mentioned.
black adam not only defeated JSA but he is constantly portrayed in such a manner.
he got some not very good showings here and there, but even his lesser showings are not drastically taking him down like the case with thor.
black adam matching an angry superman, matching captain marvel and getter sometimes upper hand, beating the JSA, beating martial manhunter, dispatching power girl with easy, tearing off the head of amazo with the GL ring, flying thru spectre and destroying him ( a weaker incarnation but still very impressive), ripping off hawkgirls wings.
basically black adam is much more stacked as an overall guy who beats up heralds.
thor on the other hand while having some very few feats of going higher than high herald, clearly has by far most showing that portray him as someone who has to use his powers wisely if he is even intending to beat up a mid - high herald.
I just posted the scans. World War III was a powered up Black Adam.
Do you not understand that Thor was attempting to deny any fear in a stuttering manner as a result of their effect?
That's a lie, Thor most definitely hurt Odin. Nul is weaker then average Savage Hulk? This fellow posters is what happens when you eat lead paint by the cans as a baby.
You don't get to call high end showings PIS and bring up Black Adam scattering the JSA. Anyways Thor's hurt everyone from Galactus to Surtur to Odin to Chaos King to killing an Eternity level Demorgorge's heart. He one shot killed Angrir, a massively amped Ulik, tear through a resurrected Skurge etc. Just recently he went toe to toe with Angrir/Nul while weakened (And also stalemated Surfer in this state) which shits on fighting Superman until he gets serious. We also saw him take on Hela with the Twilight Sword, Gorr the Butcher of Gods, Glory a pantheon of Gods, a Surtur capable of destroying the Multiverse which is even more impressive etc. all within the last few years.
Notice that I'm limiting this to only recent appearances. If I did use his best showings over dozens of years, this wouldn't even be fair. Your mind would collapse from trying to reconcile them with your lowballing.
Thor has far more showings that indicate he has to use his powers wisely if he even intends to beat up mid to high Heralds? 😂
Originally posted by wolverinos
again where is the statement even the U foes were powered by them?
and even if so where is the proof they were powered at that specific period they were fighting thor? you said yourself the power up got interrupted.
it was never stated that while fighting thor the u foes were powered, nor did it stop from Cap and nick to kick their ass.
i think if they were powered nick and cap wouldnt be able to do what they did in such a fashion, and dont give me the PIS excuse thats just lame.depowered means not at full power, if you are implying thor was not at full power while facing the U foes that means depowered.
so basically you believe that a tackle from sentry is enough to injure thor in such a manner? then how crappy must his durability be?
but as i said before there is no statement or mention of thor being injured after that tackle which means you bring up speculations.
i dont have to prove anything you are the one who is suppose to prove the negative, if you believe thor was injured when facing the u foes please present that evidence, speculating that was the situation just because he was tackled is not enough.what? please look at the fight again.
some of the members were blasting him then he fell to his knees, it was visible and clear not everybody attacked him, then iron patriot walks up to him and just punch him, then the u foes proceed to rape thor, after that you see thor lying all bloody and holding his hand in the air like some seizure attack, even his hand was covered with blood.
i would say they made much more than make his nose bleed he looked like a rape victim.
I confirmed that U-Foes were part of Hood's gang and all members of his gang were powered up before Siege even started. And the Hood's gang lost their powers after Loki reclaimed the Norn Stones which was in the final assault against Sentry. The fact that you even asked this question leads me to believe you haven't read anything I've posted so far.
You do a lot of ranting without making much of a point. Thor was definitely injured to some extent after the combined attack (Which was my original point) but in this very same issue he was back in it and fighting the Sentry Void in the next (Based on how quickly the events took place, I'd say it all lasted a few minutes or so):
Also, why do you keep thinking Thor being negatively affected by Sentry's onslaught is some kind of low showing? Osborn's crew (Specifically Sentry) were supposed to hit Thor hard and fast with everything they had.
Actually, there was blood on his hands I'll give you that. Although there aren't any visible injuries even after the dog pile.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The same scan according to which Ulik would be billions of times stronger? Pass. And that energy blast was there for no reason, right? Hahaha. One minute straining isn't trying? Really? You ARE insecure about Thor.Where the energy is crackling and loosing the debris.
And that means what exactly? She has summoned souls of the dead many times and they have interacted with living. Doesn't mean they were alive or at full power. Hahaha.
Bor is Odin's father and when alive he would've lifted mjolnir by that virtue alone. How does summoning Bor to accomplish something which he failed to do proves something here?
Becuse he failed to lift mjolnir? Surely you don't think it was a fair comparison since Hulk didn't knew about the spell. That was simple comparison. You are once again showing why you are a thorbag. Hulk doubting himself because he couldn't lift mjolnir is an indication of Thor being stronger than Hulk?
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Yes, that very same one. Can't say pass to a feat just because you don't like it. What energy blast are you talking about? There was a bright light when Masterson grabbed Mjolnir but that accompanied all his transformations.
That first panel is Ulik falling through a sign after he was weakened and it continues in the third, it's not about Thor.
Based on what? Bor isn't more powerful then Odin and if he isn't found worthy, he can't lift the hammer. Bor stopped trying to lift the hammer but Hela specifically summoned him for his abilities so the reasoning that he was weakened makes no sense. Since you have no evidence and are ignoring mine, I vote for a mod ruling on this issue.
No, Hulk doubted himself after Thor dug himself out of the ground on the first page, not the second. Please read.
Originally posted by wolverinos
but thats really the case whats wrong with that? are you saying people can just bring thor hurting galactus and therefor debate he can destroy anyone under galactus? thas how ridiculous the arguments would be if we allow 1% high showings being debated as standard.
If Thor has damaged Abstracts CONSISTENTLY, why not accept it? Don't understand how you can discredit/disregard Thor fts but accept all of Adam fts. You don't pick and choose which fts are valid for Thor or not and you sure as hell don't have the right to say what is valid for the character. Rage provided fts/scans, its up to you to find fts for Adam that is better.
Originally posted by carver9
If Thor has damaged Abstracts CONSISTENTLY, why not accept it? Don't understand how you can discredit/disregard Thor fts but accept all of Adam fts. You don't pick and choose which fts are valid for Thor or not and you sure as hell don't have the right to say what it valid for the character. Rage provided fts/scans, its up to you to find fts for Adam that is better.
lol.
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Also, last I checked, Adam was amped during WW3.
