Ok. I guess you don't really need me to tell you that such a thing can easily refer to Scourge and Malgus too and obviously would. I know you're just messing around and don't really put much stock in such ambiguous statements.
Also laugh at Mauls idiocy with me. He so dumb.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
You want me to address point by point?
I didn't even see this. I don't care how you reply. Its not like mine was point for point.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Ok. I guess you don't really need me to tell you that such a thing can easily refer to Scourge and Malgus too and obviously would.
I guess you probably do need me to tell you that you haven't presented similar accolades ascribed to them. Until you do, your appeals are irrelevant.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Maul's accolades are below Scourges
Originally posted by Nephthys
in my opinion.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Your argument here is that he's highly trained and skilled and that he's defeated a handful of powerful opponents.
Originally posted by Nephthys
But Scourge has 300 years of experience and battles under his belt
That said, Yoda's over 900 years and lost to Sidious. List can go on and on and on...
Originally posted by Nephthys
and he's killed over 1100 powerful opponents.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I highly doubt Maul is more skilled than him given that.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus is also above him in my esteem, just simply being more powerful than him. He pwned a Jedi who collapsed two buildings on him, while he was already heavily wounded. He's also displayed more powerful Force powers than Maul, all before he received a huge boost.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious himself refers to Malgus as one of the greatest Sith in history in his Book of Sith.
Originally posted by Nephthys
As for Tyrannus, both can give him a sufficient challenge
Originally posted by Nephthys
and in my opinion Malgus has the power to beat him.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
I have no idea how you reached that conclusion.
Given the evidence, I'm not entirely sure how you could be so confused by this conclusion. Its hardly such an outrageous stance to take.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Oh, so that's why...
Oh yeah, it's because you're an obstinate prick. Now I remember.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Unlike Scourge.
Yes, unlike Maul, Scourge has defeated a hell of a lot more than a few measly combatants. Look I know you don't think he wins, but don't be ****ing ridiculous. Don't just ignore his abilities. Of course he's defeated powerful people. His whole purpose is to eliminate powerful threats at the Emperors bidding. Which he has done on over a thousand occasions. And of course he's highly trained and skilled. You don't think he trained at all in those 300 years, with access to the finest materials and facilities the Empire has to offer? While preparing to fight Vitiate with the entire galaxy at stake? When his whole job is to be the Emperor's executioner? Even before then he was skilled enough that instructors at his academy were reluctant to face him. With 300 years worth of battle experience and training under his belt, he's obviously extremely skilled.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Why do people think experience is so important?
Um, duh? Because it is? What, you don't think someone really experienced at fighting.... will be good at fighting? We're talking about skill and obviously with such a huge amount of experience, Scourge would be highly skilled.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
If you want to refer to Vader's edge in experience over Luke in ESB, it was hardly Vader's amount of experience that gave him the edge; more Luke's lack of experience.
Well I don't want to refer to that so thanks? I mean, you know this is Luke Skywalker you're talking about? Hardly a valid point of reference.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
That said, Yoda's over 900 years and lost to Sidious. List can go on and on and on...
Yeah, and you don't think his experience helped Yoda at all? You don't think thats why he's mastered every lightsaber form, why he's got such a huge mastery of the Force, why he's as good as he is? Unfortunately his 900 years also works against him. Because he's ****ing old. Furthermore, you forget that as Yoda himself says, the darkside is 'Quicker, easier.' So its hardly illogical for someone as powerful and skilled in the darkside as Sidious to rise to Yoda's level.
The fact is, experience matters. 'Only through intense study and dedicated training could one become more proficient in harnessing the power of the Force.' Obviously with a huge amount of experience in battle, using his abilities, perfecting his lightsaber technique against countless opponents, Scourge is a powerful and skilled combatant.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
The amount is impressive. The skill required to do so? Not so much.
Cool story bro. Except that it is? And that wasn't my point, which is that with so much battle experience against powerful opponents, of course Scourge is going to be incredibly skilled.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
I don't.
Yeah, because Maul, like, trained... alot? And like, knew a bunch of lightsaber forms. And he beat, like, a whole four people. But they were pretty good people, so obviously he's better. Wow.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Power is not half as important as combat effeciency.
Correct, it's much more important. The Force is the real key to victory in any confrontation.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Vader, at the time when he faced Maul, was capable of collapsing cathedrals, but he lost to Maul because of Maul's greater skill and speed. Same goes with Marek: you and I know his most ridiculous showings yet they didn't help him beat Ti, Kota or Brood (and only Paratus when he was crying).
And Vader had much more combat effeciency than Luke yet lost to him. See, I can do that game too. And remember that Scourge himself lost the Hero of Tython, despite almost certainly being more skilled and having better combat efficiency. Also you don't think Starkillers power helped him beat those Jedi? Lol.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Are you sure that's what said?
Something like that. I own the book.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Tyranus is, per feats, vastly more skilled than Scourge, undeniably more powerful, more masterful and faster.
Nah. 'Vastly more skilled'? Yeah, right. Perhaps he's more powerful, but Scourge has other advantages, such as his personal shield generator and his unique ability to feed on the emotions of others, which will be a major boost against other Sith such as Dooku and Maul (especially Maul since he's hateful as hell). His strength was also enhanced by Vitiate.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
I agree he can, but not for a majority. He lacks the skill and speed to do so.
I doubt Dooku has a major advantage in speed, Malgus has been described as fast enough when he amps his speed that a person was 'frozen in time' compared to him. He's also highly skilled and powerful, and I believe that power gives him the edge against Dooku.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Given the evidence, I'm not entirely sure how you could be so confused by this conclusion. Its hardly such an outrageous stance to take.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh yeah, it's because you're an obstinate prick. Now I remember.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, unlike Maul, Scourge has defeated a hell of a lot more than a few measly combatants.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Look I know you don't think he wins, but don't be ****ing ridiculous.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Don't just ignore his abilities.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Of course he's defeated powerful people. His whole purpose is to eliminate powerful threats at the Emperors bidding. Which he has done on over a thousand occasions. And of course he's highly trained and skilled. You don't think he trained at all in those 300 years, with access to the finest materials and facilities the Empire has to offer? While preparing to fight Vitiate with the entire galaxy at stake? When his whole job is to be the Emperor's executioner? Even before then he was skilled enough that instructors at his academy were reluctant to face him. With 300 years worth of battle experience and training under his belt, he's obviously extremely skilled.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Um, duh? Because it is? What, you don't think someone really experienced at fighting.... will be good at fighting? We're talking about skill and obviously with such a huge amount of experience, Scourge would be highly skilled.
Maul beat Jinn who had more experience than him. Savage beat Plo Koon who's had more experience than him. Anakin has fought evenly with Dooku who had more experience than him. Dooku's held his own against Yoda who's had more experience than him...
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well I don't want to refer to that so thanks? I mean, you know this is [b]Luke Skywalker you're talking about? Hardly a valid point of reference. [/B]
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, and you don't think his experience helped Yoda at all? You don't think thats why he's mastered every lightsaber form, why he's got such a huge mastery of the Force, why he's as good as he is? Unfortunately his 900 years also works against him. Because he's ****ing old. Furthermore, you forget that as Yoda himself says, the darkside is 'Quicker, easier.' So its hardly illogical for someone as powerful and skilled in the darkside as Sidious to rise to Yoda's level.
Originally posted by Nephthys
The fact is, experience matters. 'Only through intense study and dedicated training could one become more proficient in harnessing the power of the Force.' Obviously with a huge amount of experience in battle, using his abilities, perfecting his lightsaber technique against countless opponents, Scourge is a powerful and skilled combatant.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Cool story bro. Except that it is? And that wasn't my point, which is that with so much battle experience against powerful opponents, of course Scourge is going to be incredibly skilled.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, because Maul, like, trained... alot? And like, knew a bunch of lightsaber forms. And he beat, like, a whole four people. But they were pretty good people, so obviously he's better. Wow.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Correct, it's much more important. The Force is the real key to victory in any confrontation.
Originally posted by Nephthys
And Vader had much more combat effeciency
Originally posted by Nephthys
Something like that. I own the book.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Nah. 'Vastly more skilled'? Yeah, right.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Perhaps he's more powerful,
Originally posted by Nephthys
but Scourge has other advantages, such as his personal shield generator and his unique ability to feed on the emotions of others, which will be a major boost against other Sith such as Dooku and Maul (especially Maul since he's hateful as hell). His strength was also enhanced by Vitiate.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I doubt Dooku has a major advantage in speed, Malgus has been described as fast enough when he amps his speed that a person was 'frozen in time' compared to him.
Originally posted by Nephthys
He's also highly skilled and powerful, and I believe that power gives him the edge against Dooku.