Originally posted by Intrepid37
I just said it. He's beaten opponents who were recognized as some of the best Jedi and have actual feats.
What I'm driving at is that as the good Colonel said, theres no 'proof' that either is superior. There is only the respective evidence on either side, your opinion on how it compares and your arguments supporting your opinion.
Originally posted by Taay'hai
And Scourge alone didn't save the galaxy. He ended up a sith Pretender at the wake of the HoT, following the one who wanted to destroy the Emperor.
Might I remind you that the Dark Council was still there?
If Scourge hadn't of told the HoT and the Jedi Council about Vitiates ritual then he would have consumed the galaxy.
Originally posted by ares834
Didn't Scourge hold his own against the HoT? That's quite impressive.
The Hero beat him, but he wasn't pwned.
Originally posted by Nephthys
What I'm driving at is that as the good Colonel said, theres no 'proof' that either is superior. There is only the respective evidence on either side, your opinion on how it compares and your arguments supporting your opinion.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
There's no proof unless it's explicitly confirmed by canon, but we can make reasonable conclusions. I find it unreasonable that beating 1100 Quinlan Vos'es over an unspecified amount of time and with no descriptions of how the fights went, is more impressive than beating someone like Obi-Wan.
Except we know that it isn't 1100 Quinlan Vos'. In the game he is sent after a former Dark Council member, giving us an idea of the caliber of his opponents. Its specifically said that he's sent after those Jedi who become too powerful. And as I pointed out, Vitiate is incredibly seclusive and uninterested in the galaxy at large so its logical to assume that any Jedi who's powerful enough to get his notice would have to be damn powerful.
Theres also the fact that even the Dark Council is nervous of him and what Valerian said:
'Seriously, though. Both Maul and Scourge have feats that prove their skill is top-tier. Maul has both, feats and statements that demonstrate his caliber. Scourge has more feats than statements on him, but they shouldn't be ignored. He served as Emperor Vitiate's personal assassin, and served him for more than 300 years. It is only logical to assume there were significantly powerful individuals who threatened him, and Scourge was always there to deal with them personally. The fact that the Emperor trusts his power and skill enough to make him his only personal assassin in a Sith Order of thousands, speaks volumes of his power,'
Where on Earth are you getting 1100 Quinlan Vos from anyway? If the target was weak, they'd just send a Bounty Hunter.
1100 Quinlan Vos lol.
His victims were powerful enough to get Vitiate's attention, but it's hardly enough. They got his attention because they became ''too powerful''. What is ''too powerful''? I'd like to know. What is ''damn powerful''? I'd like to know. Likewise, I'd never rank Maul that high if he only had one accolade putting him among the best and then the fact that he's mastered multiple forms. I'd never rank Agen Kolar high if he only had stomped Quinlan Vos, but I do because he's got multiple accolades confirming his formadability. I'm not ranking Malgus extraordinarily high as a swordsman because Ven Zallow and Kao Cen Darach have no feats. I'm not ranking Kas'im extraordinarily high because of mastery of all forms and perfecting their movements.
You get the point. I see no reason to rank them particularly high.
Ironic considering I seem to be the only one thinking between us. What is 'too powerful?' What the hell do you think it is? Use your brain, read the words I'm posting, and figure it out for yourself. You're just writing off Scourges opponents as obviously being made up of weaklings with no basis at all. Which is absurd considering how many powerhouses are running around the TOR era. When random Jedi can collapse duracrete buildings, when mere Sith apprentices can destroy entire city blocks, when archeologists can summon massive lightning storms. Its obvious to me that the only reason you don't see a reason to rank them high is because you don't want to see a reason.