Mace Windu runs the gauntlet!

Started by Intrepid3721 pages

He amped himself.

I have no idea why this is even getting disussed. That they had reached an impasse (a circumstancial impasse) does not change the descriptions of Sidious holding back.

No he didn't.

lol

He was amped by Vaapad through Sidious.

That his love for the Republic was shattered allowed Vaapad to amp him.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Pretty sure no one said that Palpatine could've ''pwned'' Windu at any moment, rather that he was intending to lose...?

You had earlier replied to my question of how Sidious could trust Windu not to immediately skewer him by claiming that Sidious was rofl-faster and could have stopped him at any moment.

Doesn't he also have Anakin's fear?

Originally posted by Master Han
You had earlier replied to my question of how Sidious could trust Windu not to immediately skewer him by claiming that Sidious was rofl-faster and could have stopped him at any moment.

To which you pointed out Mace's so called ''stupidity'', but that's not my job to address.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
To which you pointed out Mace's so called ''stupidity'', but that's not my job to address.

It has nothing to do with Mace's stupidity.

It has everything to do with Palpatine's magically knowing of Mace's stupidity.

Which, again, is an inconsistency, and not my job to address.

Can Mace blitz Saesee Tiin ?

No.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Which, again, is an inconsistency, and not my job to address.

Actually, the ability to reconcile facts and evidence into a cohesive unit is a part of how one evaluates a theory's validity.

The intention of the novelization is as clear as could be. Lucas line-edited it. He obviously doesn't care about the choreography.

Or he doesn't care about consistency between the novel and film, since the latter contradicts the former on practically every page.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Pretty sure no one said that Palpatine could've ''pwned'' Windu at any moment, rather that he was intending to lose...?

Which is a silly notion as I've proved. Saying he intended to lose would be to also say he wasn't trying to kill Mace.. which is TOTALLY and COMPLETLY unsubstantiated theory. Answer me one question.....

1. Why didn't Lucas.. in an interview.. commentary.. script... movie... novel as NO POINT EVER EVER mention that the entire fight was a farce and Sids was never trying to kill Mace. NOT ONCE EVER is this even alluded to. Lucas had plenty of opportunity to say so and never did. Shit, he could've said... Sids LET HIMSELF be disarmed so he could turn anakin. Sids was never trying to kill Mace so he waited for the right moment to appear like he lost. He could've SAID ANYTHING like that... instead he never even mentions that but DOES say.. mace OVERPOWERED Sids... In his commentary he even says Sids tries to strike Mace down. That totally makes it clear Palps was trying to kill Mace... He just failed. Stop making excuses for him losing and trying to pass of your silly theory as a fact. Sids tryied to kill Mace and got overpowered and deformed for his troubles.

You're assuming your own conclusion and that is fallacy 101... you go well of course Lucas can say Mace overpowered him.. well because Sids let him do so as he was throwing the fight. That is assuming your own unsubstantiated conclusion. You need to PROVE Lucas didn't mean exactly what he said.. EXACTLy. That is your job. You don't get to go.. well prove he didn't mean that sids threw the fight and thus was overpowered. It doesn't work that way.

If that is how you argue than prove this.. Prove to me that Mace didn't want to take a huge dump when he had the saber to Sids chest and thus hesitated in killing him and decided to do a long drawn out telegraphed overhand strike... instead of just pushing is saber forward and impalling sids. Prove to me that isn't why sids didn't do that kinda strike. That is exactly how you're arguing here... If you have no proof that Lucas didn't mean exactly what he said then shut up about it. We don't need to prove a negative here.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
The intention of the novelization is as clear as could be. Lucas line-edited it. He obviously doesn't care about the choreography.

That's not the point.

The point is that your theory fails to address how Palpatine would magically know that Windu wouldn't kill him.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Can Mace blitz Saesee Tiin ?

Good question. Even better question can he blitz Tiin, Kolar and Fisto together?

I doubt many people will think he can.

Originally posted by Master Han
That's not the point.

The point is that your theory fails to address how Palpatine would magically know that Windu wouldn't kill him.


I've provided excerpts where Mace says he came to ''arrest'' Palpatine...

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I've provided excerpts where Mace says he came to ''arrest'' Palpatine...

Yeah...and then after Palpatine kills his three fellow Jedi, then what? Windu eventually changes his mind - how does Sidious know he'll opt for an overhand hack rather than a quick thrust?