Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Buddy Yoda is much stronger. Do we have to go through all the quotes showing this!?.
None of your quotes demonstrate that Yoda is "much" better with a saber. Nobody is arguing that Windu would take the majority, only that he could compete.
I don't necessarily even agree with that idea, but I have to say that the evidence you cite doesn't really support the notion of there being a considerable gap at all.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There isn't a considerable gap at all.. In fact, the gap going by feats is rather small. In actuality it could be bigger.. but going by their common foes.. it's not big at all.
The difference is significant enough to call Yoda the clear no.1.
Lucas has called Yoda "The Master" in relation to his combat abilities, and Nick Gillard (the SW Prequel stunt coordinator) has also confirmed Yoda's superiority in that regard.
Even in the CW microseries commentary Mace was called the second most powerful.
So there's more than enough evidence from the highest sources that Yoda is the clear no.1. So it's not a "Oh Yoda might have a slight edge" kind of thing.
Originally posted by Master Han
Except that you had earlier admitted that your theory [b]isn't factual and hasn't been confirmed.Ergo, you still have burden of proof. [/B]
Originally posted by Master Han
Except that Mace actually tried...and would have succeeded had he not done a stupid overhand hack.
Originally posted by Master Han
That the movie fights are influenced by SoD breaking "PIS" is not something Palpatine is aware of, and therefore he could not have planned on Windu's being a dumbass. Once again, you're considering this through Windu's eyes rather than Sidious's.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The difference is significant enough to call Yoda the clear no.1.Lucas has called Yoda "The Master" in relation to his combat abilities, and Nick Gillard (the SW Prequel stunt coordinator) has also confirmed Yoda's superiority in that regard.
Even in the CW microseries commentary Mace was called the second most powerful.
So there's more than enough evidence from the highest sources that Yoda is the clear no.1. So it's not a "Oh Yoda might have a slight edge" kind of thing.
Not sure what you're arguing here.. I never claimed Yoda isn't no. 1. I'm saying the GAP ISN'T SIGNIFICANT FOR THE 10th damn time.
I’ve been following the debate for some time and I must say the theory that Palpatine threw the fight with Mace is completely destroyed. Master Han, hats off to you.
Intrepid, I applaud you for your debating skills but your theory here falls flat.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sure there is a clear edge but the GAP ISN'T SIGNIFICANT.. agreed?
Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Yoda is fast enough that he can duel and disarmed Palpatine, who can pretty much move at C. Mace can't match Palpatine without his massive amp. He doesn't even notice his fellow Jedi fall until after tapping into Vaapad.He can't blitz Saesee Tiin.
...Palpatine cannot move at C. WTF are you talking about?
Well the films aren't meant to show the jedi moving at the speeds they can... we see this with Palps blitz... Kenobi runnning after Jinn and Maul etc etc.. So I don't factor that in.. but no place in the books OR movies does it even allude to them moving as fast as light.. and yes that is what C means.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sure there is a clear edge but the GAP ISN'T SIGNIFICANT.. agreed?
I agree with Vensai that Yoda would defeat Mace with moderate difficulty. Call that amount of gap what you will.
Originally posted by StigmaI think in sabers Yoda = Mace is feasible,
Nah Yoda is the greatest swordsman in the Jedi order.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
A few minutes is really long and would suggest parity between the 2. Like Sith Anakin vs Kenobi.
No. The movie fights should be like 10-20 minutes but there cut down to fit time. So without the cameria on a average fight is like 5minutes and Sidious Vs Windu would be like 12. Just look at reallife fights. So thats why I said it would be 2-3minutes.