All Versus character sorting thread.

DMC2 Dante is essentially end of canon Dante, his final showings, and he's pretty ridiculous.

Pretty sure you have to be life wiper to be low herald 😐

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Magnus the Red for Low Herald

Angron, Sanguinius, Lorgar, Leman Russ, etc for High Meta

Although why is DMC 2 Dante Low Herald?

EDIT: And other Dante's high meta? None of them have anything city+ level tmk

I vote Aragorn for mid street.

And Stewie Griffin for low street.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Dante needs to be sorted. There are conflicting views on him so we need to reach a consensus. This tier list is new and far from perfect. Most entries to the list only have one vote so far, and several characters are in multiple tiers. We'll be examining most as time goes on.

DMC series problem is their anachronic order, so more flashy feats chronologically happened earlier in the series, and a most powerful incarnation has most of its feats based on Word of God and/or extrapolation of what chronologically came before but was developed later.

... so high meta.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
And other Dante's high meta? None of them have anything city+ level tmk

Dante4 is casually stronger than them normally, with Yamato allowing him to hit high above his pay grade (Things Dante would need to be a thousand times stronger to stab normally). High hypersonic speed (easily relativistic with Quicksilver, a Low Herald quality), time stop, regen, clone and BFR. Dante1's (weaker than Dante4) power was high enough to match Abigail's, a demon who like Mewtwo was building up to lifewiping. He already made a demon seal span over all of the USA by the time Dante one-shotted him with DT. Both Dante1 and 4's physical traits alone are High Meta without taking into account any powers.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Although why is DMC 2 Dante Low Herald?

Devil Trigger is proven to decently multiply all stats and powers, so this > Dante2. Finally is Majin Dante. In concept art devs said that they were planning to give Dante4 a Majin form and it would far surpass Sparda. Its a clear massive boost to get Dante4 past Dante2, who himself has his very own Majin form.

Majin annihilates DT Dante2, who's several times stronger than Dante2, who casually blew away Despair, who would crush DT Dante4, who's several times stronger than Dante4, who is stronger than the already High Meta Dante1, whose demonic power matched Abigail's.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Pretty sure you have to be life wiper to be low herald 😐

Nah.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Mid Meta is full of building/city block force, supersonic/hypersonic speeds and barely any hax.

Dante4 is casually stronger than them normally, with Yamato allowing him to hit [b]high above his pay grade (Things Dante would need to be a thousand times stronger to stab normally). High hypersonic speed (easily relativistic with Quicksilver, a Low Herald quality), time stop, regen, clone and BFR. Dante1's (weaker than Dante4) power was high enough to match Abigail's, a demon who like Mewtwo was building up to lifewiping. He already made a demon seal span over all of the USA by the time Dante one-shotted him with DT. Both Dante1 and 4's physical traits alone are High Meta without taking into account any powers.

Despair, Mundus and Sparda we're well above this Dante's Devil Trigger in both physical stats and raw power seeing as Dante could only contend by using Sparda's power. Despair was going to warp the world into a demonic one, Mundus has that city level blast with even stronger reality warping, Sparda being more powerful than either of them. A 'fraction' of Despair's or Sparda's powers is shown to turn Low Meta's into Mids with hypersonic speed and Multi-city block power.
Dante2 toyed around with and had the power to flat out stomp Despair. His stats and power > theirs.

Devil Trigger is proven to decently multiply all stats and powers, so this > Dante2. Finally is Majin Dante. In concept art devs said that they were planning to give Dante4 a Majin form and it would far surpass Sparda. Its a clear massive boost to get Dante4 past Dante2, who himself has his very own Majin form.

Majin annihilates DT Dante2, who's several times stronger than Dante2, who casually blew away Despair, who would crush DT Dante4, who's several times stronger than Dante4, who is stronger than the already High Meta Dante1, whose demonic power matched Abigail's. [/B]

And DMC2 Dante fits "destroying a million-populated city or a small country with ease" powerwise.

Abigail, Despair and Mundus already hitting that level.

Low Herald or a new Elite Meta, because he'd be too high for Hight Meta.

There's a lot of powerscaling, which is suspect. We can point out DMC2 Dante's feats, measure them, and also say he's 'somewhere above' his lesser selves, but we haven't quantified to what exact extent.

Every character in the Ten Bouts thread is a high meta, the thread isn't very far along, but there are several characters in that thread who physically outperform Dante, a primarily physical character. I don't think he can really be placed above high meta.

But I only get one vote.

I'm hoping to get more discussion in that thread, and see how many characters Dante can split with.

Dante for High Meta.

Dante for high meta.

Powerscaling yes, but what happens when a character can dominate a High Meta to that extreme degree? Dante2 would literally and effortlessly and easily tanks anything Dante4 throws at him, without powering up.

Yeah those guys have superior strength, just as Dante has superior speed and abilities over them.

Then again look at Ganondorf and Mewtwo; They are both vastly weaker and slower than Dante and the only thing that puts them in Low Herald are from things Abigail, Dante's inferior, was capable of.

Many of this "outperforming" is highly stipulational and gear dependent, to be honest. Also there is one problem - appearances. 40+ years old comics characters, especially popular ones, tend to have a lot of ridiculous feats.
DMC verse suffers GREATLY from anachronistic order of series where flashier feats technically belong to lesser incarnations. Me and BloodRain are going to stand our ground...
But then Stark was the benchmark for high meta for a long time. And based on this...Dante is high meta/elite meta for sure, low herald... depending on stipulations. But then between those two tiers there's a lot of mutual trashing. So I don't see the reason to be stubborn or throw flashy battlezones... however I may do one if/when I win current amalgam high meta tourney.

I want to add Amaterasu to the list but her feats seem to be a mixed bag of stuff between high herald and low herald.

Also Sam Gideon with the ARS on, at low meta. Without it, unknown but i'd assume mid street due to his athletic background.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Many of this "outperforming" is highly stipulational and gear dependent, to be honest. Also there is one problem - appearances. 40+ years old comics characters, especially popular ones, tend to have a lot of ridiculous feats.
DMC verse suffers GREATLY from anachronistic order of series where flashier feats technically belong to lesser incarnations. Me and BloodRain are going to stand our ground...
But then Stark was the benchmark for high meta for a long time. And based on this...Dante is high meta/elite meta for sure, low herald... depending on stipulations. But then between those two tiers there's a lot of mutual trashing. So I don't see the reason to be stubborn or throw flashy battlezones... however I may do one if/when I win current amalgam high meta tourney.

I'm just the guy who makes the list, I still only get one vote.

Then again look at Ganondorf and Mewtwo; They are both vastly weaker and slower than Dante and the only thing that puts them in Low Herald are from things Abigail, Dante's inferior, was capable of.

NemeBro:
Gregor Clegane for Mid Street. I second this vote.
Xanatos:
Aragorn for Mid Street. I second this vote.
StealthRanger:
Magnus the Red for Low Herald.
Angron, Sanguinius, Lorgar, Lemen Russ, for High Meta
COGVeteran:
Aragorn and Stewie Gryphon seconded.
NATE:
Dante for High Meta(?)
Charlotte DeBel:
Dante for Low Herald
ScreamPaste:
Dante for High Meta
BloodRain:
Dante for Low Herald
Ares:
Dante for High Meta
Cyner:
Sam Gideon (ARS) Low Meta

Most of those are sorted without conflict and tallied. Dante sits at 3/2, and needs more votes.

Let's take it like this.Mach 172 (higher with Quicksilver/Sparda DT) is ABSURDLY high speed. Most guys in high meta who reach this speed (Northstar/Quicksilver etc.) are one trick ponies who have ONLY SPEED and nothing else.
No magic blasts/shields/insane regeneration/superstrength/arsenal of magic weapons.
That's why I think that Dante firmly belongs to lower part of low herald tier/Elite Meta tier. Just like Stark. He's near the top of tier in one category and has a f*ckton of good stuff in other categories.

I'm for Dante for Elite Meta if we're going to use this category. He's a borderline case and ACTUALLY may be defining the Elite Meta for mixed genre like Tony Stark does for comics characters. Otherwise he's a low herald just like current Tony.

"Ma'am, I'm just a simple guy with a list /tips stetson"

Even Mach 15 speed with QS would appear as 5% lightspeed 😐

Amerterasu, the game wolf? Urm.. well her top showing was that galaxy spin. Not sure if shes shown to be at that level constantly.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I don't know about all that, particularly in the case of MewTwo.