Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
As of TFU? I really doubt that.
I dunno. She could have improved in the timespan...but then again, Obi Wan and Yoda both declined.
Shaak Ti made a DS nexus her personal playground,
Over the course of almost two decades...
is hailed as one of the greatest duelists of the era,
So has Darth Maul...of all time.
with her elegance being mentioned in the same breath as Dooku in the ROTS novel.
Where? Because it appears that Agen Kolar is mentioned "in the same breath" as Mace Windu, but clearly the two aren't equals at all.
Also being able to escape from bloodlusted Darth Vader is a huge accolade, considering by this point in the Jedi Temple Vader was at the height of his power and a Level 9 Duelist, and tooling the likes of Cin Draalig.
Do you have quotes/whatever detailing their actual confrontation? And is there any evidence that the Vader assaulting the temple is necessarily superior to the Vader that Obi Wan later fights?
Although I may have underestimated Shaak Ti, it's still a stretch to put her on TCW Maul's caliber. And wasn't Shaak Ti was beating Galen Marek in sabers?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Not to mention she did better against Marek than Vader himself did. Granted you can say he improved after his fight with her, but still she gets some mad props in their fight.
I actually have a hard time believing DS Galen and LS Galen have much of a gap in their power. Considering that right up to the Death Star Vader was owning him, I think his state of mind plays a huge part in it.
He's actually really inconsistent. I have a hard time believing his power jumped massive increments throughout TFU.
Originally posted by Master Han
I dunno. She could have improved in the timespan...but then again, Obi Wan and Yoda both declined.
Training your personal army and taming Rancors tends to keep you in shape.
Over the course of almost two decades...
Prove this. Because it certainly didn't seem gradual given that with her death the planet immediately became a nexus again. A nexus enough to consume Mariss Brood.
So has Darth Maul...of all time.
Am I denying this?
Where? Because it appears that Agen Kolar is mentioned "in the same breath" as Mace Windu, but clearly the two aren't equals at all.
"He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become."
Do you have quotes/whatever detailing their actual confrontation? And is there any evidence that the Vader assaulting the temple is necessarily superior to the Vader that Obi Wan later fights?
Apparently its in TFU databanks. I got this off of the wiki
"As the 501st Legion of the Grand Army of the Republic, led by Darth Vader, descended on the Temple, Ti rallied her fellow Jedi in an attempt to repulse the Sith and his minions. At one point Ti engaged Vader in a fierce duel. Despite her great skill as a warrior she was unable to defeat him. However, Ti did escape after managing to disorientate Vader."
Anakin was not seen crying during his actions in the Jedi Temple. Nick Gillard says after he fell to the DS, he became a level 9 duelist. Due to his abysmal performance on Mustafar and the extenuating circumstances around it, I'd wager he was talking about during the Temple Raid.
"Power moves served you well on Hypori against Jedi such as Daakman Barrek and Tarr Seir. But I pity you should you have to face off against any of the Council Masters."
He called into hand his courtly, curve-handled lightsaber and drew a rapid X in the air - - a Makashi flourish.
"Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Shaak Ti or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"
Although I may have underestimated Shaak Ti, it's still a stretch to put her on TCW Maul's caliber. And wasn't Shaak Ti was beating Galen Marek in sabers?
It is not a stretch at all. She's on par in sabers with Kenobi at least imo.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Ti is one of the weakest council members. She's got an accolade calling her one of the best in the order, that's it.
LOL no she isn't.
"Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Shaak Ti or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"
Dooku specifically called out Shaak Ti, Kenobi, Mace Windu, and Yoda. The top swordsman on the Council. Furthermore the fact that they changed the novel to say Shaak Ti instead of Cin Draalig seems to me like an intentional move to up Shaak Ti in the power rankings.
Dooku has no idea what Shaak Ti is capable of, and it's ironic as she got destroyed even with the help of fellow Jedi Ki-Adi Mundi and Aayla Secura.
Kolar has more and better accolades. Tiin has better Force feats and accolades. Koon has better Force- and skill feats. Fisto has better skill feats and accolades. Luminara has better skill feats. Mundi has better Force- and skill feats.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Kolar has more and better accolades. Tiin has better Force feats and accolades. Koon has better Force- and skill feats. Fisto has better skill feats and accolades. Luminara has better skill feats. Mundi has better Force- and skill feats. [/B]
Well, if Shaak Ti distracted Vader long enough to run away, while Kolar and Tiin died within seconds to Palpatine...