Galen Marek vs Darth Maul

Originally posted by Nephthys
Who could love Mace? He's one of the lamest, most badly acted and miscast characters in the Prequels and thats saying alot. Not to mention his highly Sue-ish special abilities and racist characterisation and backstory.

Lamest? Sure.
Badly acted? More like badly directed.
Miscast? Are you serious? Samuel L. is a fantastic actor.
Racist? Yeah, he really did fulfil the angry black man on the Council, also he came from the jungle...****.

But I do think Mace in the ROTS novel seems way better than in the movies. And Mace Windu was ****ing awesome in the original Clone Wars when he barehanded those battledroids.

They could have just given him shatterpoint and it would have been enough...but to give him Vaapad too was ****ing hax.

Racist lol.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Who could love Mace? He's one of the lamest, most badly acted and miscast characters in the Prequels and thats saying alot. Not to mention his highly Sue-ish special abilities and racist characterisation and backstory.

Eh, I thought he was pretty cool.

Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Racist lol.

The one black dude on the Council is always angry and comes from a jungle world.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The one black dude on the Council is always angry and comes from a jungle world.

😂 😂

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Badly acted? More like badly directed.
Miscast? Are you serious? Samuel L. is a fantastic actor.

Oh yes, don't get me wrong, Sam is awesome. But he's good at being an emotional, bombastic presence. Whereas in the Prequels he has to play a reserved, stoic Jedi, which he is ****ing awful at doing. That's why he's miscast, because the character is written to possess none of the strengths that Jackson has as an actor, leaving him floundering on-screen and giving a painfully weak performance.

Morgan Freeman instead?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh yes, don't get me wrong, Sam is awesome. But he's good at being an emotional, bombastic presence. Whereas in the Prequels he has to play a reserved, stoic Jedi, which he is ****ing awful at doing. That's why he's miscast, because the character is written to possess none of the strengths that Jackson has as an actor, leaving him floundering on-screen and giving a painfully weak performance.

Not sure you quite understand how the performing arts work. The director has a vision, and the actors do as the director says to accomplish that or they get fired. With the right director even Hayden Christensen could be a likeable Anakin.

Shit even Natalie Portman seems like an abhorred actress in AOTCs and ROTS. When her performances in Black Swan and V for Vendetta prove otherwise. The reason the Prequels fail has not to do with the cast, but with the poor writing and direction.

Trust me on this one theater is my second major.

I'm not ragging on Jackson as an actor, he was simply miscast and given a role he couldn't perform. Jacksons strengths has always been when he can shout and display his raw emotions, he's ****ing amazing as that kind of character. But a character like Windu simply isn't a character he can do well with.

You can blame George and obviously he had a big hand in it, but you can't blame him entirely. Ewen McGregor gave a likeable and charismatic performance despite Lucas. Yes, the character is written to be bland as **** and the direction blew chunks, but Jackson was still the wrong guy to play that role from the very start.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
The reason the Prequels fail has not to do with the cast, but with the poor writing and direction.

I liked the Prequels.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Prove this

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Uh-huh. Also Dooku would know first hand from Sora Bulq and other defectors who were the best swordsman in the mythos. Look, you can sit here and debate with me over this. But it's pretty clear what the writers of the books intended. If Dooku wasn't a reputable source for swordsman why the hell would they change a line that was meaningless in the first place.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Clone Wars: Volume 2, Crash Course

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Wait where is this stated?

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Huh?

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Doesn't help your case. When someone commits a crime and is in the act they don't always regret it immediately. But when they have time to reflect and it catches up to them, then remorse begins to set in.

There's no proof remorse began to set in until Mustafar where he's seen crying.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Too bad most of the game is non-canon.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And in canon he chokes out a Padawan while fending off Cin with his other hand.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not ragging on Jackson as an actor, he was simply miscast and given a role he couldn't perform. Jacksons strengths has always been when he can shout and display his raw emotions, he's ****ing amazing as that kind of character. But a character like Windu simply isn't a character he can do well with.

I disagree. In Django Unchained where he has that scene in the library with Calvin (Leo DiCaprio) he nails the stoic reserved character. You get your traditional Sam Jackson loud and darkly humorous character when Stephen is out in public. But when he is alone with Calvin, and at the end when he's alone with Django at the end, you see a whole different Sam Jackson.

You can blame George and obviously he had a big hand in it, but you can't blame him entirely. Ewen McGregor gave a likeable and charismatic performance despite Lucas. Yes, the character is written to be bland as **** and the direction blew chunks, but Jackson was still the wrong guy to play that role from the very start.

That's because Obi-Wan Kenobi was a character already written out in the OT, and already had a base for his character. There's not a single character written for the PT that is good or well acted. Shit Natalie Portman's role in that shitty Friends with Benefits movie was better portrayed than Padme Amidala, and she is, in my opinion, one of the better actresses of the era.

Agreed. PT writing was just terrible.

Dooku was written and portrayed quite well.

Not really. His death was too rushed and he never had a chance to stand out imo.

He is, as everyone, best portrayed in the novels.

He might've been the not-so-bad-one, but still wasn't good, imo.

The Prequel Trilogy had very few positive aspects when it came to the way it was written. I believe Mizukage Yoda is correct. It wasn't the actors' fault, it was Lucas's.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Dooku was written and portrayed quite well.

Well that's because they essentially stole his character from Lord of the Rings. **** they even renamed the tower on Grievous' ship the Wizard's tower in homage to Saruman the White.