Originally posted by Nephthys
By Lucas' statement he cannot compete with him though.
Well he actually in the same sentence said "Anakin could have beat the Emperor, had he not gotten all beat up."
Whether that meant right after ROTS or 20 years down the line, he didn't make very clear.
Besides if Anakin can Overpower 2 Force Wielders then.. Of course that was a On-Off, but he still did it before ROTS.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
It isn't a redherring. Mace said that Anakin is arguably superior to himself. Palpatine struggled against Mace, so there's no ****ing way he'd steamroll over Anakin.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Hmmm Sora Bulq defected, as well as numerous Jedi. All of which knew Shaak Ti. Dooku was the battlemaster and served on the Council. Yes he'd be familiar with the Order's more notable members.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That's my point. Grievous was a monster back then. And he never pressed Dooku.
And as to the general's combat skills, few, if any, Jedi would be capable of defeating him. There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku had been hard-pressed to outduel the cyborg.
-Labyrinth of Evil
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
You can use the internet yourself.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yes I am well aware. However the boost is unquantifiable and Ventress still handed his ass on a platter.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Which Dooku would have as battlemaster of the Order. So yes, his analysis would be superior to your own. Regardless the writers put that into the book to acknowledge Shaak's prowess. Why else would they change the novel to reflect that?
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Prove this. From what I saw he was immersed in the Dark Side up until Mustafar where he was crying and conflicted.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And he had no problem pwning the battlemaster of the Jedi Order while choking out a Padawan.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Sure he would. Palpatine never intended to kill Mace. He's a superior swordsmen and worlds more powerful.
Prove this
That he'd be familiar enough to declare her as Grievous' absolute superior is unlikely, not to mention she'd probably be the rank of a Jedi Knight when Dooku was battlemaster.
Uh-huh. Also Dooku would know first hand from Sora Bulq and other defectors who were the best swordsman in the mythos. Look, you can sit here and debate with me over this. But it's pretty clear what the writers of the books intended. If Dooku wasn't a reputable source for swordsman why the hell would they change a line that was meaningless in the first place.
Sure he did.And as to the general's combat skills, few, if any, Jedi would be capable of defeating him. There had been moments during the extensive combat sessions when even Dooku had been hard-pressed to outduel the cyborg.
-Labyrinth of Evil
I mean this was Dooku who wasn't intent on damaging him. But it is impressive none the less.
Then tell me the name of the comic?
It's unquantifiable, but the nexus is stronger than the cave on Dagobah, which was strong enough to completely minimize Yoda's light side presence. Besides, both have given Obi-Wan similar struggles throughout TCW.
It's not my ''analysis'', it's watching their fights.
He doubts himself extremely much after helping Sidious kill Mace, and per Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader, he was ''between worlds'' because of his doubts of choosing the dark side or light side.
Doesn't help your case. When someone commits a crime and is in the act they don't always regret it immediately. But when they have time to reflect and it catches up to them, then remorse begins to set in.
There's no proof remorse began to set in until Mustafar where he's seen crying.
Per the game, he didn't ''pwn'' him.
Too bad most of the game is non-canon. And in canon he chokes out a Padawan while fending off Cin with his other hand.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Master Han has already debated the 'Sidious didn't throw the fight' argument against Intrepid a lot, nothing will change his mind.
I think Sidious pretended to be weak at the end when Mace was gonna make him eat saber. But Sidious legitimately lost his duel to Windu.
"Palpatine never intended to kill Windu" he says 😆
That's why he killed him rite? amirite? biscuits
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I think Sidious pretended to be weak at the end when Mace was gonna make him eat saber. But Sidious legitimately lost his duel to Windu."Palpatine never intended to kill Windu" he says 😆
That's why he killed him rite? amirite? biscuits
Yeah, that's what I think.
Ur rite! biscuits
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I think Sidious pretended to be weak at the end when Mace was gonna make him eat saber. But Sidious legitimately lost his duel to Windu."Palpatine never intended to kill Windu" he says 😆
That's why he killed him rite? amirite? biscuits
Agreed. Lucas says Mace overpowered him. 👆
^^^ well it's because nitwits like yourself who tried to peddle this illogical theory not supported by anything concrete because you needed to find excuses for Sidious losing. Problem is, others and myself have crushed said sidious apologists theory but your damage has been done. Other even dumber people actually thought it made sense and here we are. Next time try not to support such an illogical stance that isn't supported by much of anything and clearly much less supported than the theory that Palps actually LOST and was OVERPOWERED
Originally posted by Nephthys
Who could love Mace? He's one of the lamest, most badly acted and miscast characters in the Prequels and thats saying alot. Not to mention his highly Sue-ish special abilities and racist characterisation and backstory.
Yeah I do find him a difficult character to like.
But fact is many fans do love him simply for being the most powerful Jedi after Yoda, and for defeating Sidious.
I personally hate the idea of Mace being almost on par with Yoda and Sidious. I mean if we already had 2 Jedi who can defeat Sidious, what the heck was the point in the frigging Chosen One?!
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I personally hate the idea of Mace being almost on par with Yoda and Sidious. I mean if we already had 2 Jedi who can defeat Sidious, what the heck was the point in the frigging Chosen One?!
Sidious's ultimate ascension lay in his macro-manipulation, not his combat prowess.
Slightly off topic: the (dumb) DS ending in TFUII sort of defeats the idea that the TFU DS ending should be taken as an accurate depiction of Sidious's power relative to Marek's. It wasn't a "what if"...no darkside secret clone appears in the LS TFUII ending, despite that Marek's choice shouldn't have anything to do with hit.