The Greatest Foe the darkness had ever known...

Started by The_Tempest31 pages
Originally posted by sfriends23282
Yet I responded only to the idea that Sidious threw the fight. Had you agreed with this ridiculous assertion (you seem to have), the Sidious wank would prove to be true.

There's plenty to dispute with the outcome of the fight with Mace, but that's one of the more bludgeoned horse carcasses around here and prefer to let others brawl over it.

If canon obeyed DS, who would the most powerful Sith Lord be?

If canon obeyed and there really was no room for interpretation, DE Sidious.

I also agree that Sidious threw the fight with Windu in order to turn Anakin to his side, seems pretty obvious from the movies.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
There's plenty to dispute with the outcome of the fight with Mace, but that's one of the more bludgeoned horse carcasses around here and prefer to let others brawl over it.

If canon obeyed DS, who would the most powerful Sith Lord be?

Big Temp.. You mean to say.. there is some circumstancial evidence that might point to Sidious throwing the fight.. however, the majority of evidence points to hiim not throwing the fight. Last I checked.. 80 is greater than 20 big bud.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
If canon obeyed and there really was no room for interpretation, DE Sidious.

If canon obeyed, would Karpyshyn ever write again. Ever.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I also agree that Sidious threw the fight with Windu in order to turn Anakin to his side, seems pretty obvious from the movies.

You mean besides Lucas himself saying he was overpowered?

You mean besides Lucas saying sidious tried to KILL mace with the force

You mean besides the novel also stating Sidious attacked windu to strike him down?

You mean besides sidious literally saying no YOU WILL DIE and firing lighting.. ligthing so powerful than Windu could barely hold his saber from his face.. and it deformed him?

Obvious LOL

Originally posted by The_Tempest
If canon obeyed, would Karpyshyn ever write again. Ever.

I think the only two things you can establish about canon is that Luke is the #1 guy in the mythos and DE Sidious is #2. Everything else seems open to interpretation.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Big Temp.. You mean to say.. there is some circumstancial evidence that might point to Sidious throwing the fight.. however, the majority of evidence points to hiim not throwing the fight. Last I checked.. 80 is greater than 20 big bud.

Your command of elementary arithmetic is bewitching.

LOL.

You would agree though.. there is more evidence that Sidious didn't throw the entire fight than he did?

There is more evidence that Gideon is straight than there is of Sidious throwing the fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LOL.

You would agree though.. there is more evidence that Sidious didn't throw the entire fight than he did?

It depends on how rigorously we examine it. For me, the damning remark isn't George's use of the word "overpower" but his line that Sidious "tried to kill" Mace with the lightning.

On the other hand, I've read plenty of persuasive if not conclusive arguments about how that should be interpreted.

If anyone wants to see stupidity at it's finest just check out the self-proclaimed lawyer's arguments in this thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f86/t581764.html

He starts out by claiming Krayt would stomp Dooku with the force, and when asked how, he starts listing a bunch of feats that don't even apply to combat, except for dark transfer, which he failed to explain how it would be usable in combat. Then after several post, he finally quoted Krayts combat feats from Krayt's wiki article, none of which suggested Krayt would stomp Dooku. But hey, what more can I expect from a self proclaimed lawyer.

As for KT, well, not much can be said about him. I mean, he'll spend several pages arguing with you while being completely clueless as to what's being argued.

@Petrus, no, say more. I'd like to hear what you have to say. I don't mind Palpatine losing a fight, but it's kinda hard to ignore all the evidence in the film and other EU material just because Lucas' comment may have been taken out of context. Palpatine, as we all know, is a schemer who manipulates events to get what he wants. Palpatine using Windu as bait to speed up Anakin's downfall, makes the downfall that much more interesting and it adds more depth to Palpatine's characteristic as a puppet master. I don't understand why people want to throw out all the evidence that Lucas placed within his movie. To me, that just takes away from the movie.

He starts out by claiming Krayt would stomp Dooku with the force, and when asked how, he starts listing a bunch of feats that don't even apply to combat, except for dark transfer, which he failed to explain how it would be usable in combat. Then after several post, he finally quoted Krayts combat feats from Krayt's wiki article, none of which suggested Krayt would stomp Dooku. But hey, what more can I expect from a self proclaimed lawyer.

This is why the majority of people either disregard anything you post, or generally think you are braindead. Not to mention, you keep calling me a lawyer and then saying it's self proclaimed. I don't think we've seen as much stupidity in a long time, congratulations.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
I think the only two things you can establish about canon is that Luke is the #1 guy in the mythos and DE Sidious is #2. Everything else seems open to interpretation.

No, I mean would you let Karpyshyn ever write again? Ever?

Not from what I've seen from his last "masterpiece".

Originally posted by sfriends23282
This is why the majority of people either disregard anything you post, or generally think you are braindead. Not to mention, you keep calling me a lawyer and then saying it's self proclaimed. I don't think we've seen as much stupidity in a long time, congratulations.

Do they, now? Like who?

And, oh, so you actually thought I was being serious when I called you a lawyer? I also once said that you owned me in a debate lol. Damn, you really don't know what sarcasm is. But I'm the stupid one, right? 🙄

Also, can you do better than "I know you are but what am I?"

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Do they, now? Like who?

And, oh, so you actually thought I was being serious when I called you a lawyer? I also once said that you owned me in a debate lol. Damn, you really don't know what sarcasm is. But I'm the stupid one, right? 🙄

Also, can you do better than "I know you are but what am I?"

No champ, you keep saying I'm a self proclaimed lawyer, meaning I keep calling myself a lawyer (I don't). How are you NOT following this rofl. 😆

You have called yourself a lawyer, or that you went to school to be one. Regardless, you took my sarcasm seriously. But nice try in attempting to cover it up. lol

BTW, self proclaimed doesn't mean you have to "keep" calling yourself something. lmao

You have called yourself a lawyer, or that you went to school to be one. Regardless, you took my sarcasm seriously. But nice try in attempting to cover it up. lol

So I've either called myself a lawyer, or that I went to school? That's a pretty big discrepancy rofl. You're making sure to cover all your bases aren't you? Further embarrassment isn't necessary for you.

Btw, self proclaimed doesn't mean you have to "keep" calling yourself something.lmao
self-pro·claimed (slfpr-klmd, -pr-)
adj.
So called by oneself; self-styled.y

I don't know what's sadder, your stupidity or horrible attempts at backpeddling. Rofl.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
So I've either called myself a lawyer, or that I went to school? That's a pretty big discrepancy rofl. You're making sure to cover all your bases aren't you? Further embarrassment isn't necessary for you.

I know you said you went to school to be one. Regardless, me calling you a lawyer was sarcasm. Me calling you a self proclaimed one, was out of memory of how you use to keep mentioning going to school to be one. All in all, I'm mocking you. You can't read between the lines.

Originally posted by sfriends23282
I don't know what's sadder, your stupidity or horrible attempts at backpeddling. Rofl.

You never claimed to be a lawyer?