Hyperion vs. Ultraman

Originally posted by zopzop
OT : You're not alone. Check the CBR forums. Even his fans are having a hard time defending his garbage (Ellis' name was thrown in there too, so they realize where the idiocy began).

Oh well.
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This fight can go either way because of how few appearances these guys have. Hyperion screaming like a b|tch from a mid heralds attack does nothing to make me believe he'd survive an assault from Ultraman.

What mid Herald can tank a Mjlonir throw and state that he didn't feel it? What mid Herald would only get stunned by Hulk dive bombing them from space? What mid Herald can take on Hulk, Thor, Hyperion, and Captain Marvel and last half of the comic, even damaging them. The ONLY reason the Avengers were able to subdue SB was due to a sneak attack from Hulk, without that, they were on the losing end from a Starbrand that didn't even know how to use his powers yet. Again, what mid Herald can achieve this?

Originally posted by carver9
What mid Herald can tank a Mjlonir throw and state that he didn't feel it? What mid Herald would only get stunned by Hulk dive bombing them from space? What mid Herald can take on Hulk, Thor, Hyperion, and Captain Marvel and last half of the comic, even damaging them. The ONLY reason the Avengers were able to subdue SB was due to a sneak attack from Hulk, without that, they were on the losing end from a Starbrand that didn't even know how to use his powers yet. Again, what mid Herald can achieve this?

As to the rest of your post, we've discussed this before. The Avengers were holding back at first. Then when they got serious, Failbrand was phucked (he even admitted this to Nightmask and thanked him for saving him from the Avengers). That still didn't stop him from treating Hyperion like a little girl though.

Notice he did nothing worth mentioning vs the rest of the team (Hulk, Thor, IM, Captain Marvel, etc....). Hyperion was the only one to fold like a cheap suit.

All this time and Starbrand still hasn't done anything worth mentioning. 😆

Originally posted by zopzop
Firelord, a mid herald, has swatted Mjolnir away like a child's toy multiple times.

Yeah. Hype held two Earth before they were crushed by the universes behind them. Planet sgattering force 2x, exclusively for strength.

Cap with IG moved the entire universe, with only that earth being VISIBLE to the Illiminati. He didn't movevthe Earth alone. He moved the entire universe.

No, the earth cannot even remotely hold the mass of a universe.

Hickman himself had his Hype being taken out by star level gravity. This-- he's inferior to star level gravity metric force, which >>2x earth shattering force.

Anyone who thought anything other than what I wrote above is 100% illiterate.

Hyperion held back two Universes. The guy is a beast.

Hype.

Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion held back two Universes. The guy is a beast.

He held back two universe up until the point where they exerted planet shattering power. The comic shows exactly how much force he held back from the two universe-- 2x Earth shattering. He explicitly cannot withstand star level force.

Anyone disputing that is an illiterate who isn't capable of comprehending comic books.

Two Universes was pushing against Earth and he held all of that double Universe power back until the Earth crumbled. Then he survived two Universes exploding on him. Hyperion is a freaking monster. Ultraman dies.

Originally posted by carver9
Two Universes was pushing against Earth and he held all of that double Universe power back until the Earth crumbled.

Then he survived two Universes exploding on him. Hyperion is a freaking monster. Ultraman dies.

Hype was totally incapacitated by star level force that Captain America withstood.

Ultraman crushes Hypes jaw and snaps his neck.

Originally posted by panthergod
Ah, so you admit that Hyperion held back Earth shattering force, exclusively.

Surviving isn't the same as taming.

Hype was totally incapacitated by star level force that Captain America withstood.

Ultraman crushes Hypes jaw and snaps his neck.

What was pushing against the two planets?

What did Hyperion prevent from pushing against the planet?

Originally posted by carver9
What was pushing against the two planets?

What did Hyperion prevent from pushing against the planet?

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT TIME!!!

Let's say you have two cars driving towards each other.

In the middle, stands carver.

He holds two twigs out to stop the cars.

The cars hit the twigs, and they (obviously) break.

The cars continue along their path, and slam into each other. Carver survives.

It's obviously a durability feat - but NOT a strength feat.

Addendum: now, when the cars hit the twigs, there was a millisecond (nanosecond?) where the cars were slowed down. IF the comic had told us how long Hype had held the Earths apart, then maybe carver would have a point.

It's still a good strength feat and a helluva durability feat doe.

Yah, obv a durability feat - taking NOTHING away from it.

As a strength feat? It's iffier.

I'd think it was around a planetary level strength feat but I can see it being debatable if it was strictly durability. Either way I don't think it's a stomp for either, like some are suggesting.

Holy sh*t, this thread brings back memories.

Good times.

Are people still arguing that Earth can sustain the mass of two universes?

That sounds like a question that should be on a "Are you mentally impaired?" questionnaire.

Everyone who was in the incursion zone was tanking the mass of two universes bro.

It's probably a planetary strength feat.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, obv a durability feat - taking NOTHING away from it.

As a strength feat? It's iffier.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
But in the scan we see him using his arms in a manner that suggests he was using strength couple with narration that states "he held them apart".

Yes-- the worlds, up until earth shattering force was generated.

Originally posted by carver9
What was pushing against the two planets?

What did Hyperion prevent from pushing against the planet?

It doesn't matter.

The irrefutable limit of the force Hyperion held back was Earth shattering force. That's what is shown. Period. And it's not debatable to those of us who are literate and sane.