Doomsday vs the Fantastis Four

Started by tkitna11 pages
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
im not saying thing BY HIMSELF distracts DD. Him jhonny and Sue. My argument is that Thing could hurt DD

Not enough to sway the results in any way or form. The Thing is a non factor here. He would be quickly dealt with. Johnny has nothing here either. Sue has maybe less then a snow balls chance in hell too. Reed is the only person who can tip the scales.

Originally posted by ODG
The comic.

Contradicts your claim.

^ Non-feat was deconstructed years ago. Using the comic. Either reread it to figure it out yourself or feel free to use the search function.

I am not going to bother wasting time browsing several year old posts. Either explain where in the comic it's implied to be a non-feat, or shut the phuck up.

Either ways it doesn't change the fact that he has a universally relevant intelligence.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am not going to bother wasting time browsing several year old posts. Either explain where in the comic it's implied to be a non-feat, or shut the phuck up.

Either ways it doesn't change the fact that he has a universally relevant intelligence.

But I have to waste my time explaining it to someone who can't bother to read the comic itself or look up the previous discussion where this myth got busted? Irony. Feel free to take your own advice. I'm not going to bother extending this charade of your's as you've made it quite obvious you'd rather plead ignorance than have your preconceptions overturned.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the Alien Entity.

^Yep. Afterall, it was you who made the claim that it was a non-feat in this thread. Put up or shut up.

As simple as that, browski.

How long does the fight go on for?

The FF win handily when they all get into the Zeno Room (all of them, so no BFR) and just sit there watching Doomsday run at them.

Without prep DD wins. With prep Reed can win.

Originally posted by h1a8
Without prep DD wins. With prep Reed can win.
Even with prep this may be a tall order without bfr. Reed could possibly learn the Speed Force formula, but I'm not sure that's enough. It would be interesting to see if DD could take an IMP to both sides of the head from Reed.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Even with prep this may be a tall order without bfr. Reed could possibly learn the Speed Force formula, but I'm not sure that's enough. It would be interesting to see if DD could take an IMP to both sides of the head from Reed.
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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am not going to bother wasting time browsing several year old posts. Either explain where in the comic it's implied to be a non-feat, or shut the phuck up.

Either ways it doesn't change the fact that he has a universally relevant intelligence.

Basically, the question posed created the spark of the big bang, and then the Alien Entity's view of the universe made everything into chaos, so he needed Reed's knowledge of how the universe worked so planets didn't collide with each other or suns swallow planets.

Together they created a working universe. And Reed sent the cosmic rays to make himself Fantastic

Also, the Alien Entity was a giant pussy.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Even with prep this may be a tall order without bfr. Reed could possibly learn the Speed Force formula, but I'm not sure that's enough. It would be interesting to see if DD could take an IMP to both sides of the head from Reed.

C'mon, Doomsday would be a memory if Reed got prep.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
C'mon, Doomsday would be a memory if Reed got prep.
Reed's smart, but he's not McGuyver smart. Without the benefit of bfr, he's going to need to take the time to study the Watchtowers computer to learn what he can about Doomsday. Even if he comes up with an idea that MIGHT work, he still has to design and build the weapon, as well as fabricate any parts that aren't just lying around the lab. Reed is famous for "I just need you to buy me a few more minutes". Against Doomsday, "a few more minutes" might be to much to ask for. I like Ben, but he's outta his depth on this one, Torch is a non factor, and Sue's forcefield won't hold up to a sustained attack from someone as strong as Doomsday.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Reed's smart, but he's not McGuyver smart. Without the benefit of bfr, he's going to need to take the time to study the Watchtowers computer to learn what he can about Doomsday. Even if he comes up with an idea that MIGHT work, he still has to design and build the weapon, as well as fabricate any parts that aren't just lying around the lab. Reed is famous for "I just need you to buy me a few more minutes". Against Doomsday, "a few more minutes" might be to much to ask for. I like Ben, but he's outta his depth on this one, Torch is a non factor, and Sue's forcefield won't hold up to a sustained attack from someone as strong as Doomsday.

Or he just uses the Watchtower's database to learn what can and cannot kill Doomsday (i.e. he's unstoppable) then goes home and pulls out his Celestial gun.

All that can be done in thirty minutes.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Reed's smart, but he's not McGuyver smart.

😐 reed has tech in his lab onhand that I'd be willing to bet would dust Doomsday. Imagine if he had prep on top of that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or he just uses the Watchtower's database to learn what can and cannot kill Doomsday (i.e. he's unstoppable) then goes home and pulls out his Celestial gun.

All that can be done in thirty minutes.


A.) At the time Doomsday was on the astariod they hadn't yet learned of his adaptability, so that very important piece of information wouldn't be available to Reed.

and

B.) I doubt Reed's first reaction would be to use an Abstract busting weapon on what he would most likely consider a Hulk-class threat. Reed doesn't do overkill very often.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
A.) At the time Doomsday was on the astariod they hadn't yet learned of his adaptability, so that very important piece of information wouldn't be available to Reed.

and

B.) I doubt Reed's first reaction would be to use an Abstract busting weapon on what he would most likely consider a Hulk-class threat. Reed doesn't do overkill very often.

Doomsday wishes he could receive an amp to HULK level; assumed or not...

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
With 24 hours prep and access to JLA files, his plan would not include simply fighting him straight up. There likely would not even be a fight.

I didn't read the OP, therefore shut up. uhuh

Reed wins. Probably comes up with something to teleport him back to DC.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
A.) At the time Doomsday was on the astariod they hadn't yet learned of his adaptability, so that very important piece of information wouldn't be available to Reed.

and

B.) I doubt Reed's first reaction would be to use an Abstract busting weapon on what he would most likely consider a Hulk-class threat. Reed doesn't do overkill very often.

Yes, but what WOULD be on the database would be how 'normal' tactics (i.e. blasting him with energy projection from Guy, Booster etc) didn't even phase him, plus that laser cannon Emil developed.

So long range weaponry won't work.

Close range weaponry (i.e. fists) would definitely not work.

In other words, if you're going to fire a long range weapon at him, better make sure its damn powerful. I.e. the Celestial gun - or something similar, at least.

He's not turning up with a standard comic book laser gun, that's for sure. It'll either be a plot device weapon that would stop Doomsday, or something he already has lying around.