Originally posted by Uriel005
Fisk laughs at Ozy in any first engage. Ozy might figure something out later... definitely not physically overcoming him
While "I did it 35 minutes ago" is one of the greatest lines in the history of comic books, Ozy's pretty low end for both a genius villain, and a street leveler fighter, by comic book standards.
I can't see him outmaneuvering Fisk any more than beating him straight up.
Originally posted by cdtmWas thinking more along the lines of gas or environmental.
While "I did it 35 minutes ago" is one of the greatest lines in the history of comic books, Ozy's pretty low end for both a genius villain, and a street leveler fighter, by comic book standards.I can't see him outmaneuvering Fisk any more than beating him straight up.
Originally posted by KingD19It's called jobbing. Spidey wasn't using his faster than bullet speed against Fisk. All comic fans knows that writer's ignore a character's speed in favor of the plot. In forum fights there is no jobbing and Spidey would spite stomp Kingpin.
Are you joking? Or are you saying Ozy is faster than Spidey? Because Kingpin had no problem tagging him when they would fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's called jobbing. Spidey wasn't using his faster than bullet speed against Fisk. All comic fans knows that writer's ignore a character's speed in favor of the plot. In forum fights there is no jobbing and Spidey would spite stomp Kingpin.
So he was speed jobbing. What about strength/durability jobbing? Spidey's own commentary pointed out how hard Kingpin hit and how strong the guy was. He ripped a bank vault off it's hinges or something like that iirc.
And Ozy is painfully low end in the comics. The entire Watchmen universe is.
Originally posted by h1a8
It's called jobbing. Spidey wasn't using his faster than bullet speed against Fisk. All comic fans knows that writer's ignore a character's speed in favor of the plot. In forum fights there is no jobbing and Spidey would spite stomp Kingpin.
Depends. Why do you say Fisk is that slow?
Is it because he is classed as a human? Dangerous argument to make, after all, Ozymandias is also human, as is Batman, and they've all done things that no human can do.
It IS PIS, but not in the way you think...more like Comic Plot Induced Stupidity. The same way gamma radiation turns you into a Hulk, or the existence of a mysterious Speed Force. Fisk was created not only as a criminal mastermind, but also as a physical threat to Spiderman. So yeah, logic dictates this big human guy shouldn't pose any threat to a bullet timer.....but he has enough showings to say otherwise.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85the same way that captain america is still considered "peak human"... my ass was classic Fisk "peak" human.
Depends. Why do you say Fisk is that slow?Is it because he is classed as a human? Dangerous argument to make, after all, Ozymandias is also human, as is Batman, and they've all done things that no human can do.
It IS PIS, but not in the way you think...more like Comic Plot Induced Stupidity. The same way gamma radiation turns you into a Hulk, or the existence of a mysterious Speed Force. Fisk was created not only as a criminal mastermind, but also as a physical threat to Spiderman. So yeah, logic dictates this big human guy shouldn't pose any threat to a bullet timer.....but he has enough showings to say otherwise.