Originally posted by h1a8
An opinion is neither true or false as it is not even a statement.
What I said was either true or false and thus not an opinion.
So if you were of the opinion that water boiled at 32 degrees fahrenheit and someone said that you were wrong, you'd argue that you're not wrong because "An opinion is neither true or false as it is not even a statement"?
Originally posted by Silent Masterthat's still a statement (something true or false). leaving out relevant information doesn't turn something into an opinion. Water Can boil at 32 degrees but not in all situations.
So if you were of the opinion that water boiled at 32 degrees fahrenheit and someone said that you were wrong, you'd argue that you're not wrong because "An opinion is neither true or false as it is not even a statement"?
Originally posted by h1a8
force to stop a bullet is a function of the stopping distance. A bullet penetrating something to a certain depth would hit with a few hundred pounds of force
So again,
Are you trying to equated Durability to strength?
Your arguing a non-factor in catching a bullet unless you can prove it bounced off him...
Originally posted by h1a8
that's still a statement (something true or false). leaving out relevant information doesn't turn something into an opinion. Water Can boil at 32 degrees but not in all situations.
You're missing the point, something being an opinon doesn't mean it can't be wrong. another case in point....at one point in history people were of the opinion that the Earth was flat.
Originally posted by pym-ftwwell perhaps, so maybe ozys hand is bullet proof, able to absorb tons of force in his hands.
So again,Are you trying to equated Durability to strength?
Your arguing a non-factor in catching a bullet unless you can prove it bounced off him...
Strength was applied in some way though. But I get your point.
Originally posted by pym-ftwit was shown to stop instantly upon impacting his hands. That means little to no recoil on his hands implies strength. Generally when a bullet strikes something it either creates a deformation and or creates a change in the objects momentum.
Again its more durability, skin tension & strength than muscular strength.Realistically he most likely changed the direction while slowing it down.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85http://imageshack.us/f/247/daredevil17113rf3.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/295/daredevil17114xj1.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/295/daredevil17115dq4.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/135/daredevil17116fo4.jpg/One Punch.
All taken from the respect thread, so thanks to all the contributors.
Sheeeez that's a bank vault door. Crazy feat for both Matt and KP.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Sheeeez that's a bank vault door. Crazy feat for both Matt and KP.
Yeah, kind of makes you wonder why Marvel couldn't just admit Fisk is super human. Frank Miller here was pretty much stating his opinion through DD's narrative, and a lot of writers must have felt the same.. But I guess editorial wouldn't budge on the issue, which is a pretty odd, pointless thing to insist on..
Originally posted by cdtmlike Captain America or Batman being "Peak Human" with the feats that they have...
Yeah, kind of makes you wonder why Marvel couldn't just admit Fisk is super human. Frank Miller here was pretty much stating his opinion through DD's narrative, and a lot of writers must have felt the same.. But I guess editorial wouldn't budge on the issue, which is a pretty odd, pointless thing to insist on..
Originally posted by cdtmI think the beating he took from a pissed off "All the upgrades" Spider-Man pretty much prove that. There aren't many class 50-100 that could have taken that and still been awake
Yeah, kind of makes you wonder why Marvel couldn't just admit Fisk is super human. Frank Miller here was pretty much stating his opinion through DD's narrative, and a lot of writers must have felt the same.. But I guess editorial wouldn't budge on the issue, which is a pretty odd, pointless thing to insist on..
Though Digi HATES that feat.
Originally posted by h1a8
it was shown to stop instantly upon impacting his hands. That means little to no recoil on his hands implies strength. Generally when a bullet strikes something it either creates a deformation and or creates a change in the objects momentum.
In ozys case the deformation was skin deep.
Of course, ignoring the fact that Ozy moved his arms back as well..
But its a non factor. KP wins, solidly. Tailor made to fight Ozy...and most street levellers, really.
Originally posted by h1a8
I now believe kp wins since pressure points was shown not to work on him from someone almost or basically as strong. Plus kp can absorb a strike and counter with a bear hug.
I guess what pissed a lot of people off, and makes you come across as a troll, is that all the information I posted (which, presumably, was what informed your change in opinion) was readily found in the Kingpin respect thread. You could've easily taken five minutes out and did a bit of research - no one is asking you to only post in here if you're a KP expert (I certainly am not), but at least realise what he has done.
Instead, you stubbornly clung to your two beliefs: Ozy's superior speed and that pressure points were god in comics, and attempted to apply your real world logic to a comic book setting.
When in fact, comic book logic has shown that Kingpin is arguably just as fast, if not faster, but even IF we ignore that, comics have shown that he is immune to pressure point type attacks. They are NOT the gods you hitched your wagon to, in fact, KP is specifically immune to it.
And I hope this showed you the dangers of using real world logic in a comic book. Sure, in real life, someone extremely fast could target pressure points on a big lumbering human and take him out. But in comics, that isn't a lumbering human, in fact, you could hardly call him human, and the flesh covering his pressure points is in fact, effectively armour plating.
And again, five minutes in his respect thread would've shown you this.
