Ozymandias vs. Classic Kingpin

Originally posted by Silent Master
For a vs thread.

NO!
The point is stronger evidence can counter contradictory weaker evidence.
A contradiction can not exist. Either Spidey is faster than a bullet when it comes to reflexes and dodging or he is much slower where Kingpin and others can hit him.

He dodged bullets far more times and does it on a regular basis. Thus this is the standard and using Full Capacity anything that contradicts that is PIS.

Originally posted by h1a8
"So feats must be done of the regular to count? "

NO!
The point is stronger evidence can counter contradictory weaker evidence.
A contradiction can not exist. Either Spidey is faster than a bullet when it comes to reflexes and dodging or he is much slower where Kingpin and others can hit him.

He dodged bullets far more times and does it on a regular basis. Thus this is the standard and using Full Capacity anything that contradicts that is PIS.

How many times must someone perform a feat before it counts?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How many times must someone perform a feat before it counts?

For example, if X amount of feats show case A and X+1 amount of feats shows case B, which contradicts case A, then we accept case B and say that case A is PIS.

Originally posted by h1a8
The number of times is irrelevant if the number of times the contrary has been shown is greater.

For example, if X amount of feats show case A and X+1 amount of feats shows case B, which contradicts case A, then we accept case B and say that case A is PIS.

Well, KP has been shown to tag people with bullet-time feats far more often than he's been shown as unable to, thus using your standards....KP can tag bullet-timers.

Now, show feats of Ozy beating someone of KP's skill/speed/durability/strength level.

He won't show feats. I doubt he's even read or has access to the Watchmen comics.

He'll just continue to claim Ozy is better without any proof.

Why is this thread still going when there was 99% spite agreement on the first page?

The same reason all threads like this keep going. The 1% won't concede in the face of utter defeat. And the mods won't close it yet.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How many times must someone perform a feat before it counts?

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy wins. Fisk won't even get a hit in.

I used to think h1 was just a troll, and still do... but he's so dedicated to being completely wrong. It's just... I don't know

Originally posted by Uriel005
For Hulk Odin and Thanos 1x everyone else must be every other issue.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, KP has been shown to tag people with bullet-time feats far more often than he's been shown as unable to, thus using your standards....KP can tag bullet-timers.

Now, show feats of Ozy beating someone of KP's skill/speed/durability/strength level.

But those people wasn't using their bullet time ability when KP hit them (unless they get hit more times than they time bullets). You can't use PIS to unprove PIS. Also Spidey is faster than all the so called bullet timers that KP hit.

Originally posted by h1a8
But those people wasn't using their bullet time ability when KP hit them. You can't use PIS to unprove PIS. Also Spidey is faster than all the so called bullet timers that KP hit.

Post proof that they were holding back their speed when fighting KP.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I used to think h1 was just a troll, and still do... but he's so dedicated to being completely wrong. It's just... I don't know.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's the brilliance of the ruse.

I mean he never breaks character

Or he just really really hates Marvel. Or a combo

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post proof that they were holding back their speed when fighting KP.

Spidey: I'm fighting this guy who could really mess me up if he catches me. Let me not fight to my full abilities and run the risk of getting severely injured or killed.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He's gotta have like a main account if it's all just a joke

I mean he never breaks character

Or he just really really hates Marvel. Or a combo

Originally posted by h1a8
"So feats must be done of the regular to count? "

NO!
The point is stronger evidence can counter contradictory weaker evidence.
A contradiction can not exist. Either Spidey is faster than a bullet when it comes to reflexes and dodging or he is much slower where Kingpin and others can hit him.

He dodged bullets far more times and does it on a regular basis. Thus this is the standard and using Full Capacity anything that contradicts that is PIS.

Or....Kingpin is fast enough to tag him.

Why do you not accept this? When it has been shown on panel?

It goes back to my original point. Are you only arguing this because Fisk is 'peak human', as the handbooks suggest?

If so, then so is Ozy. And no peak human can catch bullets.

Better negate most of Batman et al's feats too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Why do you not accept this? When it has been shown on panel?

He doesnt have a leg to stand on, but he'll continue to say stupid things like the other characters werent fighting to their best and they were letting Kingpin bash their skulls in.

How long must it last?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or....Kingpin is fast enough to tag him.

Why do you not accept this? When it has been shown on panel?

It goes back to my original point. Are you only arguing this because Fisk is 'peak human', as the handbooks suggest?

If so, then so is Ozy. And no peak human can catch bullets.

Better negate most of Batman et al's feats too.

Originally posted by h1a8
In comics, Tagging someone with bullet speed and reflexes doesn't mean they are faster than a bullet. That's what we call PIS. Kingpin is not faster than a bullet. Unless you can show evidence other than him to Tagging characters with their speed and reflexes turned off

Post proof that they were holding back their speed when fighting KP.