Ozymandias vs. Classic Kingpin

Originally posted by h1a8
It's called jobbing. Spidey wasn't using his faster than bullet speed against Fisk. All comic fans knows that writer's ignore a character's speed in favor of the plot. In forum fights there is no jobbing and Spidey would spite stomp Kingpin.

Didn't he already in Civil War? Been a while

Aww...

Juggerman, you make me feel old, if the Civil War is what you use to define 'classic'.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Aww...

Juggerman, you make me feel old, if the Civil War is what you use to define 'classic'.....

Ha forgot it was Classic. As soon as he mentioned Spiderman not holding back against KP that's what popped into my head. Ignore me 😄

Kingpin wins

Originally posted by KingD19
So he was speed jobbing. What about strength/durability jobbing? Spidey's own commentary pointed out how hard Kingpin hit and how strong the guy was. He ripped a bank vault off it's hinges or something like that iirc.

I think it's more he casually slammed open a really thick safe door with one hand, that Matt had to strain with all his strength just to move enough to go into the vault.

He's left imprints in steel beams and ripped up steel scaffolding that had Peter on it, though.

DD would school Ozy, I doubt Ozy could hurt a non serious KP.

Ozy would not get hit at all. He wins the majority.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy would not get hit at all. He wins the majority.

Ozy loses, he doesn't have the skill, strength or speed to beat Fisk.

I wonder if h1a8 has actually read any Kingpin or Watchmen comics.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy would not get hit at all. He wins the majority.

Kingpin hits Spiderman just fine.

But you said Spiderman was jobbing.

Why? Because Kingpin is merely classed as human?

That argument works for one or two showings. Kingpin consistently gives Spiderman a good fight.

Ozy has one bullet feat to his name? Maybe two? Surely that was jobbing as well, as logically no human can catch bullets in their hands?

Originally posted by KingD19
I wonder if h1a8 has actually read any Kingpin or Watchmen comics.

As his name suggests, Mr wiki tends to get his info from wiki and respect threads....he's the RenaissanceMan of KMC.

Kingpin wins, hell Classic Kingpin defeat Cap that put Kingpin at least peak human.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Kingpin hits Spiderman just fine.

But you said Spiderman was jobbing.

Why? Because Kingpin is merely classed as human?

That argument works for one or two showings. Kingpin consistently gives Spiderman a good fight.

Ozy has one bullet feat to his name? Maybe two? Surely that was jobbing as well, as logically no human can catch bullets in their hands?

Spidey can dodges bullets as a day job. This is a norm. Thus Spidey jobbed when getting hit by KP. Going by history, KP is not faster than a bullet. This has nothing to do with him being a human. Hulk is faster than KP and Spidey dances circles around him.

Post scans of Ozy beating someone on KP's strength/durability/skill level.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Kingpin wins, hell Classic Kingpin defeat Cap that put Kingpin at least peak human.

Originally posted by h1a8
KP won't get a hit on Ozy at all. Ozy would decimate KP.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post scans of Ozy beating someone on KP's strength/durability/skill level.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post scans of Ozy beating someone on KP's strength/durability/skill level.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't have to. Ozy is faster than KP and has the reflexes to see KP in slow motion. He would never get hit. A skillful statue is still a statue.

Post scans of him doing so to someone on KP's level.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post scans of him doing so to someone on KP's level.

Level doesn't make you immune to being a statue. No amount of skill can combat speed. Your logic is off. Kingpin can be 10000000000000000000000000000000000 times more skilled than CA and still be a statue.

Originally posted by h1a8
Level doesn't make you immune to being a statue. No amount of skill can combat speed. Your logic is off. Kingpin can be 10000000000000000000000000000000000 times more skilled than CA and still be a statue.

IOW, you can't prove that Ozy can beat someone on KP's strength/durability/speed level.