Originally posted by FrothByte
Which merc? The one he tackled and knocked out while straddling him? What does that prove? McClane is a good scrapper, I never claimed otherwise. Still doesn't prove that he has this uber knockout power that you keep claiming. The guy was on his back and was unable to defend himself. McClane smacked him in the face and knocked him out. Like I said before, any average guy can knockout someone as long as they're given a clean shot.
When you aren't punching from a decent anchored standing position, you only punch with 20% of your regular power, due to it being mostly arm, rather than how you'd punch with your bodyweight behind it. But McClane STILL knocked his ass out.
I don't claim anything: I'm just observing what was shown.
The average guy might not be able to depending on who they are punching. Joe Schmoe was never gonna be able to take 80s Tyson for example. Clean shot or no.
As for the jeep driver, he didn't intentionally hit McClane. McClane waded into fast traffic and thus got hit. It was McClane's own fault that he got hit. Impressive durability shown by McClane though. But his punch wasn't all that. It was a slightly sloppy punch, and yet I've seen sloppier punches knockout guys (see video I posted above).
Even so he squared up, paid the price and took a rapid journey to night-night land. Yes I said it was a lazy yet fast shot: But it still sounded like A member of the bovine species coming unstuck when trying to use the Timecop method of time travel and he dropped the guy immediately.
I don't know where you're from, but for most of the rest of the world, you don't punch a guy simply because he's shouting at you. Otherwise there'd be millions of brawls in offices. This guy might have been aggressive, but he definitely was unprepared for that shot. Thus a cheap shot. A sucker punch. You denying that is the "signature of your trollery here today".
You can, actually. The law may not agree with you, but you can. McClane had just been struck by the guys vehicle and the guy didnt look concerned for McClane's safety, he just came over and started to be aggressive and was shouting and showing classic prefight signs..also McClane had a mission to get on with and didn't have time for a bullshit road rager.
The guy was prepared. He clearly was walking over to McClane with intent, giving off the classic aggressor signs and he had just hit McClane with his car.
Man you really don't like McClane, do you.
Also are you suggesting that no office has ever had a fight in it..?
And if a 'dirty shot' is constituted by the reciver of it not being prepared, then 90% of boxing matches, fights, tournaments of any discipline ever are dirty. He had a clear view, could see it coming, got knocked out. Thats a fair shot. He had every opportunity to defend himself, but most likely didnt cause he was going through his prefight thing of concentrating on what he was gonna do to McClane rather than the otherway round. Classic mistake.
As for telegraphed slowness, check out McClane's fight with the chick in Die Hard 4 and see her ducking around his blows making him look sloppy. Sure he won that fight, but not through any punching speed of any sort.
He clearly improved.